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All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

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Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

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post #27

Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.

China’s already all in on renewables, it helps that they’re the cheapest option right now

The US really needs to step up though, they’re not even in the Paris agreement

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#53
post #27

Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.

China’s already all in on renewables, it helps that they’re the cheapest option right now The US really needs to step up though, they’re not even in the Paris agreement

The U.S. rejoined in 2021

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#54
Has the IPCC or any credible organisation demonstrated that CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is the primary driver of climate change?

Note that emissions and actual pollution in the atmosphere (let's not forget our lands and the seas) MUST be heavily reduced to levels FAR FAR lower than the current and worsening crapping in our planet.

The first MUST be identified before throwing resources and effort at it.

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#56
post #27

Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.

Then take back all the polluting industries you off shored to China because otherwise you can say good bye to 50-70% of the things around you

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#57
post #16

Without specific measures to reduce carbon emissions in a couple of months --- not just offsets, but actual shutdowns of emission sources --- I will not hold my breath that any EU members will actually meet this goal. That is the same as me saying 'I will quite smoking next year.' Just buying time.

Climate lockdowns, they will claim, will do this. They will use the conveniently created lockdown framework with QR and cell-surveillance, to enforce compliance.

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#58

Good thing and since it's a world problem, what matters the most is: 1. Also reduce emissions in the US and China[^1], 2. Save the Amazon rainforest in Brazil and SEA mostly[^2]. The best would be to introduce a tax from the CO2 emitters paid to the forest countries if (and only if) they protect them. [^1]: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/co2_m... [^2]: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/img/bio…

What do the trees in the Amazon breathe?

Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050

#59
post #27

Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.

China’s already all in on renewables, it helps that they’re the cheapest option right now The US really needs to step up though, they’re not even in the Paris agreement

China is not all in on renewables, they are all in on growth at any cost. They started 50GW of coal power plant construction last year, six times more than the entire rest of the world combined…

(And even at a third the GDP per capital, Chinese carbon emissions per capita surpass the likes of Germany, let alone France.)

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