Neutrality won't save us. Neutrality is kicking the can down the road, to be picked up by... well, whoever is alive and still civilized by then.
All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe has a much more fleshed out freight rail system and the vast majority of European countries have ocean access, so long range haul can be done by the cheapest form of transport of all, boat.
It is estimated that the full electrification of all railway tracks in Germany will be completed not earlier than 2070. But maybe I am confusing "Deutschlandtakt 2070" and the electrification of the tracks.
yeah, you are;
however given the zero amount of interest shown on focusing on the train system by the department for mobility, doesn't give much hope it's going to happen before 2070... they want to build more and bigger high ways such that there is less traffic jam, thus less emissions, which is just hilarious.
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#23Europeans to regress to hunter gatherers in 2051
Re: All EU Members are committed to achieving full climate neutrality by 2050
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe has a much more fleshed out freight rail system and the vast majority of European countries have ocean access, so long range haul can be done by the cheapest form of transport of all, boat.
It is estimated that the full electrification of all railway tracks in Germany will be completed not earlier than 2070. But maybe I am confusing "Deutschlandtakt 2070" and the electrification of the tracks.
Deutschlandtakt has nothing to do with electrification. And full electrification isn't planned for any point in time, there will (if it goes as planned) never be a fully electrified railway network. They are planning to either shut down small branches or use locomotives with batteries or hydrogen fuel cells.
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#25With no emitters alive that goal makes some sense.
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#26"from 2035 new cars and vans must not emit any CO2" Wont this effectively kill any ICE vehicle? Biogas, ethanol, HVO diesel, etc.
Yes but make no mistake: German car manufacturers will make the German governments lobby for whatever they find value in when time goes by. They've recently invented the funny term "Technologieoffenheit" as an abstract concept to allow for "whatever the market decides" which sounds good but completely ignores, e.g. that they won't have enough renewable energy to produce zero-emission e-fuels/hydrogen at a scale big e…
> . that they won't have enough renewable energy to produce zero-emission e-fuels/hydrogen at a scale big enough to achieve reasonable consumer prices for usage in cars.
which then means that "everyone" is still using ICE cars, which can't be driven climate neutral. The the lobby will again cry that it is impossible that we move everything to electric instantly and/or e fuels can't be afforded by the poorest. The result will be that climate goals regarding ICE cars will be watered down again, and the government will subsidize e fuels.
Regarding food: just kill more rein forests in brasil, which we are already doing anywasys (we produce bio gas from plants (1/30 area efficiency of photovoltaics while eroding the ground) and add bio fuel already to fossil fuels (which btw. hardly improves the impact on the environnment -> a bit less theoretical emissions while way more air pollution)
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#27Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.
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#28Good thing and since it's a world problem, what matters the most is:
1. Also reduce emissions in the US and China[^1],
2. Save the Amazon rainforest in Brazil and SEA mostly[^2].
The best would be to introduce a tax from the CO2 emitters paid to the forest countries if (and only if) they protect them.
[^1]: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/co2_m... [^2]: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/img/biome/map-rainforest-m...
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#29Unless China and India cut emissions drastically it’s a drop in the ocean. There should be tariffs on the biggest emitters to the point where they can’t afford to NOT cut emissions if they want to trade good and services.
China and India's per capita emissions are about ten times lesser than Americans.
Americans should stop driving bulldozers instead of blaming the poor
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#30why does emissions get way more attention than plastics and forever chemicals? that shit scares me way more. At this pace, soon our food and water will not be safe anymore, what's the point of preventing climate change if you won't have water to drink and food to eat?