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Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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Why is this flagged? It might be the most important thing to happen all year

> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. [0] This is just way outside of the HN wheelhouse. The guidelines are pretty clear. - [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Interesting, guess I’ll be flagging much more content now.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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I wish @dang would weigh in. Either unflag it (as I hope) on the grounds of it being a key event of high interest to curious people or confirm that this doesn't belong on HN (which would be a valid point, too).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36456034 (EDIT: side note, it seems there is a surprising number of people for whom it seems incredibly important that this is on the front page, but that don't take part in the discussion about it. why? Something not being on the front page doesn't mean you can't discuss it!)

For every thread that I comment on there are usually several that I read because I find others' comments informative or thought-provoking. Reading comments is basically why I am on HN. There may be the same dynamic in play here.

On the topic itself -- this war, and the world reaction to it, is a critical part of modern history and will likely influence political, military and technological developments for years to come. I would love to hear more smart people express an opinion on it. Flagging greatly limits this.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36456034 (EDIT: side note, it seems there is a surprising number of people for whom it seems incredibly important that this is on the front page, but that don't take part in the discussion about it. why? Something not being on the front page doesn't mean you can't discuss it!)

For every thread that I comment on there are usually several that I read because I find others' comments informative or thought-provoking. Reading comments is basically why I am on HN. There may be the same dynamic in play here. On the topic itself -- this war, and the world reaction to it, is a critical part of modern history and will likely influence political, military and technological developments for years to c…

fair point, HN could maybe do a better job making the "canonical" thread more discoverable for those that look for it (now that I think of it, flagged might remove it from search too even if not flag-killed, that's not ideal and would be an argument for removing that mark for the first thread, even if stays penalized in ranking)

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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post #177

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That's kind of stupid - politics affect our lives whether we like it or not. Especially these kinds of events where Russia might collapse from within.

Yes but it’s part of how this site has avoided being sucked into the culture war vortex.

Even though these events were provoked by the war, they are important even without that connection. Possibility of civil war / regime change in Russa will inevitably hit everyone in the world. Some will get hit more, some less. Some only economically.

Nothing to do with a culture war vortex. Burying your head in sand is not necessarily the smartest option although I understand that it is the easiest one.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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post #177

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That's kind of stupid - politics affect our lives whether we like it or not. Especially these kinds of events where Russia might collapse from within.

? There's a difference between not wanting to interact with this news, and not wanting to interact with this news on this forum .

So just don't interact?

You can simply not click that link. I don't think that I've hidden/misrepresented or clickbaited the title to force you to click... You may not want to interact, others may.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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post #167

Why is this flagged? It might be the most important thing to happen all year

> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. [0] This is just way outside of the HN wheelhouse. The guidelines are pretty clear. - [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

That is true, but the guidelines also say anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

History of nations & psychology & huge geopolitical changes is indeed something I find very interesting. And I think I'm not alone as I don't believe that hackers have to be interested only in tech and nothing else.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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I'll say this, the guy is bold as hell. He's an absolute maniac and probably worse than Putin but he sure isn't afraid of anything. One can only hope he wrecks enough chaos make the war in Ukraine untenable. I'll also say this, Putin played his hand as poorly as humanly possible. He spent decades stockpiling loyalty and political capital with an iron fist and spent it all in less two years and has absolutely nothing…

I'll say one thing - I wish US generals would publicly speak our against our wars and the lies behind them.

This guy is just pushing his own militaristic agenda. Also, he's not a general. He's the head of a mercenary/human trafficking organization. The US equivalent would be Erik Prince who has definitely been working his own agenda also and it isn't more benevolent than the Pentagon.

Re: Wagner coup in Russia? Wagner declared war on the Russian army

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post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's kind of stupid - politics affect our lives whether we like it or not. Especially these kinds of events where Russia might collapse from within.

Yes but it’s part of how this site has avoided being sucked into the culture war vortex.

It’s absolutely hasn’t avoided that though. There are stories about culture war topics almost daily and multiple on the weekends.
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