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The Case Against Travel

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Re: The Case Against Travel

#91
I disagree with it, but I love this biting line about travel:

    To be a mass tourist, for me, is to become a pure late-date American: alien, ignorant, greedy for something you cannot ever have, disappointed in a way you can never admit. It is to spoil, by way of sheer ontology, the very unspoiledness you are there to experience, It is to impose yourself on places that in all non-economic ways would be better, realer, without you. It is, in lines and gridlock and transaction after transaction, to confront a dimension of yourself that is as inescapable as it is painful: As a tourist, you become economically significant but existentially loathsome, an insect on a dead thing.

Re: The Case Against Travel

#92
I expected this to focus on the climate aspect but it didn't.

> In the many great cities I have actually lived and worked in, I would never consider spending whole days walking.

I do. I walk a LOT in Barcelona. And I've lived here for 6 years. It's a great way to discover really exceptional things and I discovered the area I live right now in this way.

In fact it's much nicer to just walk around and explore than to do all the usual tourist crap things.

> That is, before quickly moving on: apparently, many people spend just fifteen seconds looking at the “Mona Lisa.” It’s locomotion all the way down.

This is because you can't look at it quietly. It's tiny, behind a 10cm thick pane of glass you can't approach closer than 1 metre, and there's a whole queue of impatient visitors behind you. It's ridiculous.

I think the author doesn't really get it. For me travel is important, it teaches me about other cultures. Understanding is important int his connected world. One time I spent an hour talking to an old lady beggar in Bucharest, who told me a surprisingly accurate vision of what is wrong with the world. She was not a druggy but a retired school teacher whose generation has been done a really raw deal by the current government.

I also found the city I love to live in, which really improved my life. I've lived in 4 countries so far in my life and I love it. I don't think I'll ever want to return to my native Netherlands because it's changed so much and become too right-wing and materialistic. When I visit there now I'm anxious to go back because I don't fit there anymore.

If I never would have traveled, why would I ever have considered moving? I'd have been stuck there. I would never have known what I like about different places, what I don't like, what's really "me". Travel has profoundly changed (and arguably improved) me as a person.

So no, while I agree mass-tourism can be a terrible thing (here in Barcelona a typical example is the hen party groups that just come here to get wasted in a different and cheaper place), not all travel and not even all recreational travel is bad.

Re: The Case Against Travel

#93

Life is short. See the world while you can.

That is it, I think. Or the saying, "not afraid of dying, afraid of not having lived."

I'm pretty sure as an old man I will not be wishing I spent more time in life browsing the web, ha ha. (Honestly though, probably regret having not spent more time with the people I love — we can of course have travelled together though!)

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#94

As a seasoned traveler, both with and without purpose, I feel the author is erecting a straw man tourist that fits no real person. "No, I don't mean those who travel with purpose, nor those who actually appreciate the place, nor those who follow through with a life-changing experience, nor those whose year will now be more bearable thanks to the memories made during the trip, nor those who think they got something ou…

Yeah, I don't think Ive read anything as dismissive and cynical as this piece. I found myself trying to see their viewpoint, trying to be critical of my own experiences as a traveler and I kept failing to do so. What a horrible narrative they're embracing.

Dismissive and cynical writing in The New Yorker.. never!

Re: The Case Against Travel

#95

Much like [decent but overrated entertainment], the issue isn't with travel itself. It's that the vast majority of people who are "into travel" are insufferable.

Traveling is for people too low IQ to find boundless entertainment sitting in their room at their computer all day. Mentally and emotionally sessile, they can only move physically.

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#96

I long ago found the lyrics of this lesser-known Beatles song to be thought-provoking: Without going out of your door You can know all things on Earth Without looking out of your window You could know the ways of Heaven The farther one travels The less one knows The less one really knows Arrive without travelling See all without looking Do all without doing -The Inner Light

I guess the principal reason in this topic context for this to provoke thought about the benefit of travel is that it is a song written by George Harrison after he had convinced the band to travel to India and study Transcendental Meditation under Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a song that demonstrates an overt Indian classical influence.

It is literally a song unlikely to have been written without the act of travel.

Re: The Case Against Travel

#97
post #38

I want to leave my life with as little interference as possible from any moralizing types telling me how to do it. So my basic answer for "well wishers" - fuck off and leave me alone. You do what you want with your life (and I respect it) and let me do whatever I want with mine.

Yes, it was a disappointingly judgmental piece that did nothing to change my perspective.

Re: The Case Against Travel

#98
As travel becomes more common I find experiences are becoming too homogeneous. Everyone travels to the same places to see the same things and most people recount having experiences that are vastly similar to other people who also visited those places, right down to seeing the same landmarks and eating the same foods.

When you have a specific reason to travel to a place, that doesn’t involve tourism, you often end up having richer more genuine experiences. The location no longer becomes the focus of your trip, it just becomes a curiosity you happen to observe while you go about your business. You become a legitimate contributor to the surroundings rather than just a visitor taking pictures.

Re: The Case Against Travel

#99

As a seasoned traveler, both with and without purpose, I feel the author is erecting a straw man tourist that fits no real person. "No, I don't mean those who travel with purpose, nor those who actually appreciate the place, nor those who follow through with a life-changing experience, nor those whose year will now be more bearable thanks to the memories made during the trip, nor those who think they got something ou…

Yeah, I don't think Ive read anything as dismissive and cynical as this piece. I found myself trying to see their viewpoint, trying to be critical of my own experiences as a traveler and I kept failing to do so. What a horrible narrative they're embracing.

> I don't think Ive read anything as dismissive and cynical as this piece.

About par for the course for the New Yorker, in my experience

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