New study suggests that lab-grown meat produces up to 25 times more CO2

Post by myshpa » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 7:54 PM UTC

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I'm not sure what your "not muh eggs!" story has anything to do with a discussion about animal ag industry and scaling meat production to global levels. For example, how much do your backyard chickens contribute to global egg consumption, and what would the egg market look like if all eggs came from chickens living like yours? That's the kind of topic going on here.

Animals converting plants to meat/protein is more efficient than humans directly eating an entirely plant based diet.

Post by myshpa » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 8:09 PM UTC

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Or we could switch to eating plants now. We already get 82% calories and 63% proteins from plants. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets We could stay on our 1% of habitable earth, lower our agricultural footprint from 48% of land to 15%, use quarter of pesticides,…

> If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets All of this is `fighting the last war'. World population is going to fall precipitously by the end of the century. The scarcity thinking everyone is parroting is a relic of the 20th century and it gets in our way. It keeps us from thinking about creating abundan…

Post by dmbche » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 8:15 PM UTC

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It's orders of magnitude less destructive. We have to at least try to make an effort and not give up and "enjoy the status quo while it lasts" It's going to take work - giving up before trying isn't going to help. And telling others to give up won't either.

>It's orders of magnitude less destructive. Citation needed. I'm not sure you've ever been around industrial scale mono-cropping agriculture. The amount of pesticides, fertilizers, and herbicides is astronomical. And you are worried about a little cow poop? Which is natural and beneficial to the soil? Have you ever heard of regenerative agriculture? That is what I practice. We live in such an alarmist society one can…

Post by Ekaros » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 8:21 PM UTC

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I want to eat meat from chickens and cows that had good, happy lives, eating the healthiest most natural form of their diet possible. I don't want lab grown meat, the concept is disgusting. As it is our food is too processed and industrial. Maybe we can focus on mixed farming instead https://www.earth.com/news/mixed-farming-could-increase-food...

I wonder who the market for lab-grown meat would be. I bet that 99% of vegetarians (myself included) and maybe 90% of meat eaters would never eat it. Meat eaters will insist on “real meat” and vegetarians don’t want any meat.

Post by myshpa » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 8:31 PM UTC

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Good luck enforcing a world-wide “plant-only” diet. I know people who would go to war just over that.

Black-and-white thinking, think in gradients! You eat meat X times a week? Try X -1 or more. Even a little bit helps tremendously. Everyone reading this who eat meat every day, try cutting down even one day, it will help.