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Forget about lab grown meat: give me a bean that doesn't cause gas or other stomach irritation. We could eat beans 3 times a day and save the world while we're at it, all while saving money.
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Do you have experience raising animals? I do. The sheer amount of excrement that you have to handle is absurd, and it's a well documented problem that the nitrogen leaks into aquifers and nearby water, causing massive problems (including the dead zone in the gulf of mexico). This is without commenting on how removing trees in the pasture reduces absorbtion of the nutrients on location and helps with the leaking into…
This is life. We must eat. Large scale plant agriculture is also destructive. There is no escape.
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We haven't been factory farming for even a hundred years (not really). I would also challenge that cows evolved to be efficient at producing CO2? haha.
I recommend The Jungle by Upton Sinclair - proof that the meat industry was already there in 1906.
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You may not care about the widespread cruelty to animals in meat production, but many people do.
But you may not care about possible future when I can not grow some chicken legally for my own consuming, but I appreciate eating animals as one of the most natural and beautiful things in my life.
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Do you have experience raising animals? I do. The sheer amount of excrement that you have to handle is absurd, and it's a well documented problem that the nitrogen leaks into aquifers and nearby water, causing massive problems (including the dead zone in the gulf of mexico). This is without commenting on how removing trees in the pasture reduces absorbtion of the nutrients on location and helps with the leaking into…
I do raise meat animals. This is life. We must eat. Large scale plant agriculture is also destructive. There is no escape.
We have to at least try to make an effort and not give up and "enjoy the status quo while it lasts"
It's going to take work - giving up before trying isn't going to help. And telling others to give up won't either.
This is an expected result if you extrapolate from an early R&D stage process to a global scale, but it doesn’t mean that it’s not worth pursuing more sustainable routes to the mass production of animal muscle. And that’s really what the underlying goal is here - don’t fall for the false dichotomy of “farmed” vs “lab-grown” - factory farms are essentially process development labs. How efficiently can you convert land…
Not every meat producing shop aims for the lowest operating costs, ie in Western Europe meat from free range animals are extremely popular, we don't buy any meat (+ eggs) that isn't at least that (for kids it would be great to buy all time bio meat but that's not always available). Its not BS and lies either, where we live farm animals roam the grass fields or mountain pastures constantly, to the point where it may b…
How about 2x, since it's projected our consumption will double by 2050?
Does the land physically exist?
I want to eat meat from chickens and cows that had good, happy lives, eating the healthiest most natural form of their diet possible. I don't want lab grown meat, the concept is disgusting. As it is our food is too processed and industrial. Maybe we can focus on mixed farming instead https://www.earth.com/news/mixed-farming-could-increase-food...
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The question to ask is: can everyone eat meat from animals that had good happy, lives? Does that scale to everyone?
Basically nothing scales to everyone. Everyone can't have an American or European house with a garden and a car. We don't plan for that in general.
Or we could switch to eating plants now. We already get 82% calories and 63% proteins from plants. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets We could stay on our 1% of habitable earth, lower our agricultural footprint from 48% of land to 15%, use quarter of pesticides,…
I noticed that many people who propose this are not aware of a plethora of health issues that people have that make eating plant-based foods extremely difficult. For many people eating plants only is extremely difficult - e.g. for me personally, with a plethora of food allergies (soy, almonds, various kinds of nuts, apples, peaches and other fruits) and intestine issues causing irritation when consuming multiple othe…
- American Dietetic Association
A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age.
- NHS UK
It is possible to follow a well-planned, plant-based, vegan friendly diet that supports healthy living in people of all ages, and during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
- British Dietetic Association.
For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate.
- WHO
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It sounds like your issue is with our resources allocation system and meat is just a proxy for it that you don't care for.
... did you just call someone a communist for daring to disagree with you? My problem is unnecessarily destructive practices which are causing giant and totally avoidable crises. If we were running the same meat production system in a centrally planned economy under some "the proletariat deserves meat" party plan with the same concentrated waste from feedlots, reckless use of antibiotics, clearing of the Amazon for r…