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Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by thesuitonym »

lagniappe wrote: post #26
Technotroll wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EVE Online has the nickname "Spreadsheets in Space" for a reason, though. There are many aspects of the game where you don't need a spreadsheet, so you're not forced to play this part of the game. However, if you want to do anything serious within research, production or sales, then spreadsheets quickly become your friends. And API calls and scripting.

that moniker came from the visual appearance of the old UI circa 2010.

The "old UI circa 2010" is like the second refresh, and the game already had the reputation back in 2007 when I started playing. It refers to the big business players, who actually play the game like they're real life companies.

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by solardev »

xaitv wrote: post #38
solardev wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Path of Exile player (another high complexity game, with market forces but less political intrigue), I wish we had more open APIs!

> I wish we had more open APIs! Do you mean in Path of Exile or in games in general? Afaik most of the economy stuff in PoE is behind an API that's relatively open(you have to request access, but you pretty much always get it). The complexity in Path of Exile is less in the economy and more in build creation though. With tools like Path of Building that you can spend almost as many hours in as you're playing the actu…

Well, both! But for POE specifically, there's a lot of stuff they don't want to expose (the UI, damage numbers, MTX info, etc.)

I wanted to build a better catalog for their MTX (because their shop site is pretty terrible) and was explicitly denied API access even though they already have a public API for it that their site uses. Shrug.

Path of building is great, but AFAIK the formulas used for it are from observations and not an API.

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by thesuitonym »

I've bounced off of EVE three times now, and I've come to the conclusion that as much as I want to play the game, it's just not fun. Whoa there! Before you reply, remember that fun is relative to each person, what's fun for you is not necessarily fun for me!

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by archon »

thesuitonym wrote: post #44

I've bounced off of EVE three times now, and I've come to the conclusion that as much as I want to play the game, it's just not fun. Whoa there! Before you reply, remember that fun is relative to each person, what's fun for you is not necessarily fun for me!

I've had the same experience. Played multiple times, once for almost a year. The only thing that kept me playing that long was the good group of people on voice comms. I quit for the last time when I realized that life is too short to waste on a game I wasn't even enjoying (and that, frankly, stressed me out.)

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by xaitv »

solardev wrote: post #42
xaitv wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish we had more open APIs! Do you mean in Path of Exile or in games in general? Afaik most of the economy stuff in PoE is behind an API that's relatively open(you have to request access, but you pretty much always get it). The complexity in Path of Exile is less in the economy and more in build creation though. With tools like Path of Building that you can spend almost as many hours in as you're playing the actu…

Well, both! But for POE specifically, there's a lot of stuff they don't want to expose (the UI, damage numbers, MTX info, etc.) I wanted to build a better catalog for their MTX (because their shop site is pretty terrible) and was explicitly denied API access even though they already have a public API for it that their site uses. Shrug. Path of building is great, but AFAIK the formulas used for it are from observation…

That's true yes. Most of the Path of Building stuff is datamined and/or tested ingame. Interesting that they declined the shop idea, guess they dislike people touching anything to do with their monetization.

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by mabbo »

_dan wrote: post #5

This is perfectly in the crossover between useful feature and top notch April Fools prank.

If you've ever played eve you realize that the most critical skill in the game is spreadsheet usage.

I'll bet Martin Shkreli would dominate at that game. (Yes, that Shkreli: search him on YouTube and marvel at his excel skills.)

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by aeze »

thesuitonym wrote: post #44

I've bounced off of EVE three times now, and I've come to the conclusion that as much as I want to play the game, it's just not fun. Whoa there! Before you reply, remember that fun is relative to each person, what's fun for you is not necessarily fun for me!

(I'm not saying this applies to you at all, but you made me think of it)

One thing EVE taught me is that some games provide more enjoyment the more you put into it. For me, I had to play 'hardcore' in EVE to really start to have fun - casual just didn't work and was never enjoyable.

At this point in my life I just don't want to invest the time and energy to enjoy EVE. I like hopping into a game and having fun immediately, versus having to work to have fun.

Re: EVE Online: Add-in for MS Excel

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Post by robertlagrant »

Titan2189 wrote: post #20

A few months ago I've found this browser-based game which ditches the whole 3D game ui directly and allows you to do all your spreadsheet planning right there. https://prosperousuniverse.com/

I remember playing Planetarion[0] in 2000/2001. Amazingly, it's still going!

[0] https://www.planetarion.com

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