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Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#191

I would love to be able to hide Shorts for good instead of having to do it every 30 days. I wonder what technical issue is preventing them to accomplish such task.

I created this uBlock Origin rule that will remove all Shorts without any cosmetic remnants. Seems simpler and more secure than installing an addon.

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Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#192

Confirmed. Now I'm just curious what the justification was for removing it, because it baffles me. The option was removed as part of a general UX refresh that moved from a sort drop-down to pill buttons -- this general drop-down -> pill thing seeming to be a general trend on apps and websites now. But it's hard to imagine why it was removed in the first place. Saving a minuscule amount money by reducing views of less…

You can’t store old content in long term archives with slow access rates if people keep sorting by old just to randomly view things. It’s terrible for caching

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#193

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If you use Chrome, YouTube Shorts Block [1] is a good extension for that, and removes (mostly) Shorts videos. Not perfect, still leaves some traces (e.g. empty spaces, channel titles in subscriptions), but it helps to declutter your user experience. And while we're talking about extensions to customize your YT experience, here's three more that I really enjoy: - Clickbait Remover [2], to remove the usually clickbait-…

Do we have equivalents for Firefox as well? I'm struggling to find them.

I created this uBlock Origin rule that will remove all Shorts without any cosmetic remnants. Seems simpler and more secure than installing an addon.

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Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#194
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The threat is what's important. Nobody will give you a six slide c-level powerpoint presentation.

I mean... I don't really have a response to this. This is security modeling 101. To different threat models, this is a varying degree of a threat - anywhere from "not a threat" to "unacceptable threat". You cannot universally answer the question "how much of a threat are chrome extensions".

I understand that this is a pet peeve of yours. But what exactly stops you from learning what kind of data chrome extensions have access to (they can see everything on any page you visit and send it to perpetrators) and assuming the worst?

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#196
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It's astounding that such a simple feature was dropped, firstly, and then got a re-launch mentioned by the CEO himself "after hearing some great feedback"... it's just a sorting order, honestly this should have never been removed. Those big platforms really got to go.

> Those big platforms really got to go. I mean, you say that, but... what is the alternative? YouTube is the host of some of the most valuable content on the internet, in my opinion, and some (some!) of the most valuable content produced by humanity. And it allows anyone to access it for free, with incredible technical specs. This is a non-trivial problem, and incredibly expensive. Sure, I dislike that they play arou…

I don't have a satisfying answer. My bet would be something like a decentralized P2P solution that uses the LBRY protocol.

One specific idea that could see reality some day is a site that hosts proprietary videos on their own servers (for professional and paid creators) but also lists non-commercial creators that store their data in their own cloud platform of choice or indeed in the P2P network. The main point would be to not rely on dark patterns and ads in supporting this business but offload as much storage/bandwidth as possible to other servers.

I said they have to go cause I am slowly having enough of their policies. Sorting by old is a minor inconvenience but having 15-45 (!) minute long ads is just ludicrous (I listen to podcasts to sleep). I've also heard some voices about an anti-adblock campaign being rolled out, I wonder how that goes...

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#197

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The negatives being what? Technical? Social? Having a traversable landscape of content is incredibly valuable. I think "search results as search criteria"/"traversal by adjacency" is the only real feasible way to organize the web, and the fact that we've moved away from that is the reason google search is often now useless. ChatGPT is valuable as a search replacement/amplifier because it reproduces that adjacency in…

The median persons rabbit hole was actually conspiracy theories, racism, and racist conspiracies. Just like TV, there's some amazing content, but there's also reality shows and guess what people watch the most.

Not just that but videos that were related for the wrong reasons, like being interesting to horny people. Recommendation engines get creepy if the “frequently used together” entries suggest inappropriate use.

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#198

OT: I wish there was a way to create a playlist from music youtube suggestions. I am losing some good things when accidentally closing a tab.

> OT: I wish there was a way to create a playlist from music youtube suggestions. I am losing some good things when accidentally closing a tab. How about hover on each suggestion and add it to "Watch Later" or even Queue? That also works, at least for me.

So, I found out today (it's a new feature, I still have tabs that are missing it because I haven't refreshed them yet) that they added a white button "+ save" which adds the whole playlist/suggestions to a new playlist AND now click on individual songs "add to playlist" adds to the latest created playlist.

It's a good day.

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#199
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When will Youtube allow me to set tags (or my mood). I like watching science and math video's in the morning, and music video's in the evening. Both are very distinct, yet Youtube will keep putting music video suggestions in the morning, and math in the evening. Please allow a "mood" (or category) setting, so I can click "math and science" and only get those kind of suggestions.

I just use brand accounts for this. You can create them here: https://www.youtube.com/channel_switcher It's the best hidden feature of YouTube. You switch using the normal account switcher.

Interesting, thanks.
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