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You are arguing for the exact same thing as the person you’re replying to—while attempting to disagree with them. They said that provided you can keep CO2 levels down, lack of oxygen will cause drowsiness and cause you to pass out. This is true. You then argued that breathing increased levels of CO2 will trigger survival instincts. This is also true, and exactly what grandparent said.
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That's a gross oversimplification. There have been multiple vessels that have successfully explored the sea floor. What set them apart was a distinct lack of SV VC-level "move fast and break things" bullshit and utter reckless disregard for safety.
Was there a legitimate reason to take that risk? What I don’t get is why there is no beacon on this device. That should be law. This search is costing tens of millions and without a beacon they never had a chance. From what I understand of the construction and debris there is a very low order of probability they will be recovered alive. Even if they are found conserving air they can’t extract the module in time. It t…
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i understand what you are basing your statement on (a cleaner version would be asphyxiation by breathing an inert gas) but you are very wrong. as a matter of fact people with an impaired amygdala who can't experience fear will panic when forced to breathe co2. also your breathing will get very shallow and cause co2 to accumulate triggering those very receptors you argue will stay silent. https://www.nature.com/articl…
What the does that have to do with what OP said? OP, correctly, pointed out that we don't detect the lack of O2, we detect a buildup of CO2 (because it causes respiratory acidosis). If the CO2 is removed, there's nothing to cause the panic response, the situation itself notwithstanding. It's still nea that it works with an impaired amygdala, though.
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What the does that have to do with what OP said? OP, correctly, pointed out that we don't detect the lack of O2, we detect a buildup of CO2 (because it causes respiratory acidosis). If the CO2 is removed, there's nothing to cause the panic response, the situation itself notwithstanding. It's still nea that it works with an impaired amygdala, though.
first of all - the co2 isn't removed ...
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first of all - the co2 isn't removed ...
It is, they had CO2 scrubbers
why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?
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It is, they had CO2 scrubbers
but not endlessly. those scrubbers are saturated after a while. that's the whole point. otherwise suffocation wouldn't be a threat to begin with. why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?
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but not endlessly. those scrubbers are saturated after a while. that's the whole point. otherwise suffocation wouldn't be a threat to begin with. why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?
The CO2 scrubbers were in masks which could be replaced and there was enough for 96 hours
A few other notes from the USCG statement: - No noises were heard during rescue operation (the implosion likely happened around the time the communication was lost, as opposed to in the days following) - The "banging" noises discussed earlier were unrelated to the submersible.
I wonder, what happens to OceanGate as a company now? They've lost the CEO who I suppose bore the ultimate responsibility but are other executives on the hook here? Would a full investigation look at design decisions, etc.
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I agree. They're just people, doing their job. Their job is to write articles that people click on. We choose what we click on. If you want to see better journalism click on better things collectively. They're a cog in the machine, not the driver of the machine
> They're just people, doing their job. So were the guards at Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz. If your job is being a ghoul, that doesn't constitute an excuse for being a ghoul.
Apparently the parent lives in a fantasy world where he believes that people aren't constantly being manipulated into doing things. So deathscrolling isn't a thing either. Clickbait doesn't exist. Advertisements are all useless. Subliminal messaging doesn't work. Etc. etc.
Apparently, also, he thinks that because people are just "doing their jobs" that means it's okay for them to do the things they do, because they were told to do them, which is a horrible thing to think.
That guy's fucking clueless.