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Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by lsllc »

runesofdoom wrote: post #381
mikeyouse wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out that the debris field was only a few hundred meters from the bow of the Titanic which is approximately where they lost contact in the water column, so I suspect their search consisted of diving to the last known location of the Titan and then just going to the sea floor from there.

It appears to me that for all the rushing about (which was appropriate and neccessary if there were any surviors or surface debris to be found at all) the somewhat grim reality is: 1) hydrophones heard it implode at the same time it lost contact 2) it took until early 6/22 to get a deep-diving ROV on site 3) once the ROV got to the bottom, it swiftly found the debris from the implosion as expected

Wait, do you have a link for "hydrophones heard it implode at the same time it lost contact" part?

EDIT: Looks like the US Navy heard it happen, as per the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-imp...

EDIT2: HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36439661

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by chrononaut »

dpedu wrote: post #351
dmonitor wrote: post #337

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would they be vaporized or instantly compacted? my morbid curiosity kind of wants to see what would happen to a body under such insane pressure conditions.

You're in luck, the Mythbusters tried this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEY3fN4N3D8

Ah -- I was confused for like 10 minutes by this comment, since technical divers have gone as deep as 1,000 ft without "anymore than a wet suit" and commercial divers go beyond 300 feet all the time. It isn't the absolute pressure that's the problem (in this video)

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by anyonecancode »

wingworks wrote: post #536
scotty79 wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why they didn't just drop it to the bottom of the ocean without people hundred times to see if it still holds. Who experiments with a crew in the age of remote control sensors and computers?

I think they just didn't think there hull design would implode. In there minds the worst case is, they're stuck in deep ocean for a few hours until the backup dissolvable weights fall off and they pop back up to the surface (and then hopefully located). From what I've read, in there minds there hull design was the best part of the sub. I inclined to believe he believed it, since the CEO frequently dove in it.

Isn't implosion like the one obvious danger of being deep underwater?

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by vanattab »

jb12 wrote: post #583
hawk_ wrote: post #364

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The grown ups involved in that who didn't pay heed to warnings would be reckless. We still rescue them but we can charge those who can pay for it.

And the 19 year old who didn't want to go on the submarine but wanted to spend time with his dad? Was he reckless? Was he worth searching for?

Do we know he did not want to go?

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by xwdv »

ajross wrote: post #603
murrayn wrote: post #592

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"Only woke hulls implode" is quite a take to find at the very top of the HN page on the news event. Can we please not? Please?

Nobody said anything about woke. This is about the dangers of hiring cheap, freshly graduated attractive looking engineers because you don’t want to hire the ugly looking and expensive professionals.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by renewiltord »

ribosometronome wrote: post #278
renewiltord wrote: post #202

Well, that's a conclusion that I suppose many expected. It's rather tragic, yeah. What I can't say I expected is the gleeful tone from: - class warfare enthusiasts because the passengers were rich - regulation enthusiasts because the pilot espoused weakening them You'll see this online when a pedestrian or cyclist gets hit by a driver (along with "right of way doesn't mean anything when you're dead!" and "was he wear…

>Makes me want to use the Internet less This sort of thing on the internet predates many of us being born. The Darwin Awards got their start on Usenet in 85.

I am more bothered here by prevalence than by existence.

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Post by Jibbedeyeah »

ajross wrote: post #603
murrayn wrote: post #592

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"Only woke hulls implode" is quite a take to find at the very top of the HN page on the news event. Can we please not? Please?

If it’s hiring whites that you’re fightin—you should sleep with King Triton.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by bombcar »

frakkingcylons wrote: post #562
bambax wrote: post #425

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Good video. Some excerpts: "If you're not breaking things, you're not innovating. If you're operating in a known environment as most submersible manufacturers do, they don't break things." (8:49) "Our rule is we risk capital, we don't risk people." (9:56) "We used the same prepreg that's used on the 787." (11:15) And my favorite: "When you're outside the box, it's really hard to tell how far outside the box you reall…

> He does seem to be far outside the box now. Very poor taste to say this now.

Especially given that he’s almost certainly still in the box, just it’s much smaller now.
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