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Oceangate Statement, “We now believe that [all crew] have sadly been lost.”

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"The Titan began its descent Sunday to explore the wreckage of the Titanic, located about 13,000 feet below sea level in the North Atlantic Ocean, with an estimated 96 hours of life support. The expedition was billed as “a chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary” and cost each participant $250,000, an archived version of OceanGate’s website shows. "However, the cramped vesse…

From that same article, I guess he got the recognition he always wanted. Rush, the CEO of OceanGate Expeditions, told a Mexican travel blogger in 2021 he wanted to be known as an innovator who broke the rules. “I think it was (US Army) Gen. (Douglas) MacArthur who said, ‘You’re remembered for the rules you break,’” Rush told Alan Estrada, who documented his trip to the Titanic, including an aborted attempt in July 20…

Move fast and break things.

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Move fast, break things, ignore safety protocols :-(

Did Oceangate or its founder(s) say they intended to 'move fast and break things', or are you just imputing that they held those beliefs? The company purported to "maintain[] high-level operational safety".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate

> Rush's experience and research led him to two basic conclusions: one, that submersibles had an unwarranted reputation as dangerous vehicles due to their use in ferrying commercial divers, and two, the Passenger Vessel Safety Act of 1993 "needlessly prioritized passenger safety over commercial innovation".

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I am wondering the same. Everyone is talking about the rapid implosion of the sub, but can we assume that the bodies just got instantly crushed into nothing?

Depending on your definition of 'instantly' and 'crushed' yes. Milliseconds, at most.

I think "before realization, fear, or even pain set in" is well within everyone's definition of instant death.

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If the sub imploded shortly after reaching the titanic, how exactly did the people on board die? Was it an instant pressurized death? Do they drown or something?

Their bodies are also pressurized at 1 atms, after being exposed to 400 atms they instantly died. My guess is that they were effectively vaporized/liquified. Much better way to go then suffocate in darkness.

Why are people assuming this? How about a leak that fills the sub with water? Is a leak impossible to keep stable at those depths?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone on reddit did out the math- they were crushed before they had any idea what happened.

When death occurs faster than nerve impulses can travel to/in the brain, yeah.

For context, some numbers I saw estimated the implosion would take about 1ms, and it takes about 25ms for signals to travel from nerve endings to the brain.

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"The Titan began its descent Sunday to explore the wreckage of the Titanic, located about 13,000 feet below sea level in the North Atlantic Ocean, with an estimated 96 hours of life support. The expedition was billed as “a chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary” and cost each participant $250,000, an archived version of OceanGate’s website shows. "However, the cramped vesse…

The Titanic also began its descent on a Sunday.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their bodies are also pressurized at 1 atms, after being exposed to 400 atms they instantly died. My guess is that they were effectively vaporized/liquified. Much better way to go then suffocate in darkness.

Why are people assuming this? How about a leak that fills the sub with water? Is a leak impossible to keep stable at those depths?

A leak at 400 atmospheres doesn't stay a leak.

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If the sub imploded shortly after reaching the titanic, how exactly did the people on board die? Was it an instant pressurized death? Do they drown or something?

I am wondering the same. Everyone is talking about the rapid implosion of the sub, but can we assume that the bodies just got instantly crushed into nothing?

It's explosives-induced explosion level of pressure. Big explosion

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Stockton was the CEO, PH was GOAT of sea expeditions, Hamish had experience with sooo many expeditions above and beyond, the 2 odd ones were Shahzada and Suleman. Them 2 would have been the most panicked about this situation, that is, if they were given time to think by God.
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