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Oceangate Statement, “We now believe that [all crew] have sadly been lost.”

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If the sub imploded shortly after reaching the titanic, how exactly did the people on board die? Was it an instant pressurized death? Do they drown or something?

Someone on reddit did out the math- they were crushed before they had any idea what happened.

When death occurs faster than nerve impulses can travel to/in the brain, yeah.

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"The Titan began its descent Sunday to explore the wreckage of the Titanic, located about 13,000 feet below sea level in the North Atlantic Ocean, with an estimated 96 hours of life support. The expedition was billed as “a chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary” and cost each participant $250,000, an archived version of OceanGate’s website shows. "However, the cramped vesse…

From that same article, I guess he got the recognition he always wanted. Rush, the CEO of OceanGate Expeditions, told a Mexican travel blogger in 2021 he wanted to be known as an innovator who broke the rules. “I think it was (US Army) Gen. (Douglas) MacArthur who said, ‘You’re remembered for the rules you break,’” Rush told Alan Estrada, who documented his trip to the Titanic, including an aborted attempt in July 20…

You can't break the rules of physics.

Re: Oceangate Statement, “We now believe that [all crew] have sadly been lost.”

#23
post #16

If the sub imploded shortly after reaching the titanic, how exactly did the people on board die? Was it an instant pressurized death? Do they drown or something?

I am wondering the same. Everyone is talking about the rapid implosion of the sub, but can we assume that the bodies just got instantly crushed into nothing?

Depending on your definition of 'instantly' and 'crushed' yes.

Milliseconds, at most.

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post #5

Move fast, break things, ignore safety protocols :-(

Did Oceangate or its founder(s) say they intended to 'move fast and break things', or are you just imputing that they held those beliefs? The company purported to "maintain[] high-level operational safety".

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post #15

If the sub imploded shortly after reaching the titanic, how exactly did the people on board die? Was it an instant pressurized death? Do they drown or something?

Someone on reddit did out the math- they were crushed before they had any idea what happened.

but your brain is in fluid and fluid isn't compressible much at that pressure

Re: Oceangate Statement, “We now believe that [all crew] have sadly been lost.”

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post #24
post #5

Move fast, break things, ignore safety protocols :-(

Did Oceangate or its founder(s) say they intended to 'move fast and break things', or are you just imputing that they held those beliefs? The company purported to "maintain[] high-level operational safety".

Yes. The founder is on record as saying that he thinks safety is wasteful or something to that effect and many other choice quotes besides.

https://www.google.com/search?q=stockton+rush+quotes

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post #24
post #5

Move fast, break things, ignore safety protocols :-(

Did Oceangate or its founder(s) say they intended to 'move fast and break things', or are you just imputing that they held those beliefs? The company purported to "maintain[] high-level operational safety".

> Metro reports that last year, when asked about the safety of the Titan submersible, Stockton Rush, OceanGate’s CEO, said, “You know, there’s a limit. At some point safety just is pure waste. I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.”

https://jalopnik.com/oceangate-ceo-called-safety-a-waste-sui...

Re: Oceangate Statement, “We now believe that [all crew] have sadly been lost.”

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post #9

Well, this explains a lot... they didn't have a window rated for the right depth and weren't really testing whether the hull was de-laminating according to the whistleblower, so we have a few guesses as to why the sub would just implode. The lack of contact would be because nobody was alive to contact, which is honestly better, at least they had a quick death instead of slow suffocation. And the banging noises are pr…

In the press-conference they said both end bells were found separately - no mention of whether the window was still intact. It'll be interesting to see the failure analysis.

[Edit] Link to video with a description of the major debris found: https://youtu.be/A0xJ220Fod4?t=263

"the front end-bell of the pressure hull - that was the first indication that there was a catastrophic event"

"the aft end-bell which basically...comprised the totality of that pressure vessel"

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