Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

I mean I think the bigger take away is to not cut corners when operating with such a small margin of error as DSVs. Safe deep-sea exploration is possible, and has been for a long time, in manners such as the DSV Alvin, DSV Limiting Factor, etc., etc. The manner in which the Titan was made and tested indicated a severe lack of safety oversight from OceanGate. As unfortunate as this is, there's the saying that rules are written in blood, and this is yet another case. I doubt there will be many such cavalier attempts at deep sea exploration and tourism in the future as a result, for the better.

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Post by housemusicfan » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:15 PM UTC

yabones wrote: post #3

What can we learn from this? Don't go in pressure vessels; don't go in confined spaces.

That's a gross oversimplification. There have been multiple vessels that have successfully explored the sea floor.

What set them apart was a distinct lack of SV VC-level "move fast and break things" bullshit and utter reckless disregard for safety.

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Post by sesuximo » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:15 PM UTC

yabones wrote: post #3

What can we learn from this? Don't go in pressure vessels; don't go in confined spaces.

Do airplanes count?

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Post by powderpig » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:17 PM UTC

yabones wrote: post #3

What can we learn from this? Don't go in pressure vessels; don't go in confined spaces.

There are a number of reasons why it might have failed, fatigue, deviation from process/protocol but pressure vessels are well understood and not the problem here.

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Post by yabones » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

sesuximo wrote: post #6

yabones wrote: post #3

What can we learn from this? Don't go in pressure vessels; don't go in confined spaces.

Do airplanes count?

Eh, the pressure gradient is a lot less dramatic in a jet vs. under 3500m of water.

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Post by mattbrewsbytes » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:20 PM UTC

The outcome everyone knew would happen. I don't understand the desire to go to that depth to see a sunken ship when I presume there is camera footage of it available. You can't get out and do anything, your view is probably pretty crappy given the thickness of any see through material. I see the allure with Everest and the view for your 60 seconds at the top must be impressive and it is a physical feat. But a sunken ship? I don't get it.

It would be pretty cool to send down a camera to get footage all around it at various angles and then build an app for a VR headset.

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Post by legitster » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:20 PM UTC

In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.