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Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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It's a shame they openly did not hire SMEs.

This quote shines light on his hiring philosophy: “When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have, uh, gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and they — you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in a resurfaced interview. “I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational and I’m not going to insp…

What on Earth did I just read? It sounds like startup nonsense applied to a super high stakes domain. Foolishness.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

#133

RIP to these guys, yes it was a risky trip. But it was into international waters and they were AFAIC explorers. Stuff like this can not be done without risk. Hopefully future subs will have more safety features.

feel horrible about this too . the 19 year old especially.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a shame they openly did not hire SMEs.

This quote shines light on his hiring philosophy: “When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have, uh, gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and they — you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in a resurfaced interview. “I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational and I’m not going to insp…

Ah, I see he's got the 'Elon Musk school of thought' in regards to cutting corners in vehicles carrying people's lives and seeing safety regulations as a nuisance hindering his "visionary progress" that these pesky gray-beard engineers just can't grasp.

Fucking idiot CEO, took 4 innocent people with him. Aero, naval, automotive, all have a a history written in blood, and all those rules and regulations aren't to hinder innovation but to save lives based on what we've learned from all the people who lost their lives in the past.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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I wonder if U.S. agencies (e.g. the Navy) had picked up the sound of the implosion days ago, back when the Titan was said to have lost communication, and knew all this time that the Titan had likely already been destroyed. But there's no incentive for them to publicly say anything, as it would hint to their underwater surveillance capabilities. And the "rescue effort" is good practice for their crews. I watched most…

Would the implosion have been loud enough? I mean the thing was a tiny 7x3m cylinder located 700Km from the nearest coast...

I worked at an aquarium for a while, and IIRC one of the exhibits discussed how a device equivalent to an average home stereo placed in the water in Japan could be easily heard on the coast of California.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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post #124

Complete speculation: They wanted to see something very very upclose through the glass. While getting in close they managed to scrap some wreckage compromising the carbon fiber body leading it to break and implode. The banging noises are some of the equipment dangling on the Titanic wreckage and blowing in underwater currents occassionally.

They lost contact about 1¾ hours into the voyage, while it's expected to take 3 hours to get down to the Titanic wreck. From that, it sounds like they would be somewhere midway down.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

#137

Well that's better than slowly asphyxiating or dying of hypothermia, probably didn't even know what hit them.

It’s definitely better for them, but its infuriating that this CEO died thinking he was a genius for building this shitty sub with very few safety precautions.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Why has this sub been so hard to find? I keep seeing reports that they've search an area "the size of" Massachusetts or Connecticut. Shouldn't OceanGate have recorded the exact coordinates where it was released and then been able to localize its possible location to a small area around that by modeling ocean currents or something? My understanding the Titan was designed to sink to the bottom and could only move very…

> I keep seeing reports that they've search an area "the size of" Massachusetts or Connecticut

This was the size of the search _on the surface_.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

#139
post #124

Complete speculation: They wanted to see something very very upclose through the glass. While getting in close they managed to scrap some wreckage compromising the carbon fiber body leading it to break and implode. The banging noises are some of the equipment dangling on the Titanic wreckage and blowing in underwater currents occassionally.

They lost contact about 1¾ hours into the voyage, while it's expected to take 3 hours to get down to the Titanic wreck. From that, it sounds like they would be somewhere midway down.

I believe I read that they lost "communication" 1hr 45 in, but continued to receive data of some kind or something for a little while longer.

However, it sounds like they've had comms issues on most of their previous dives, so perhaps the 1hr 45 is just a red herring here.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Shouldn't OceanGate have recorded the exact coordinates where it was released and then been able to localize its possible location to a small area around that by modeling ocean currents or something? Modelling and knowing surface currents is one thing, but this submersible was thousands of meters deep. Deep ocean currents can be very fast, change often, and we have way less data on them.

'Telemetry? who needs it' - Oceangate, probably

There is no way to transmit telemetry to the surface anyway.
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