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Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by tinus_hn »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #191
dgellow wrote: post #147

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It’s anti-ADHD. I have an ADHD diagnostic, using discord is a constant fight. You’re trying to follow fragmented discussions, while receiving notifications everywhere that more things are happening at the same time.

I am also diagnosed and I have an alright time. Here are my reccs: 1. Set your own notification preferences to @mentions only. Tell your friends they need to tag you for anything urgent or you won't see it until later. For bigger servers where you might want to get notified from a news channel, just set preferences on that channel or see if there is an optional notification role available. I check the backlog on my f…

You can just change the ‘suppress @everyone’ setting for a server to avoid getting notified.

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by wpietri »

imtringued wrote: post #173
jabroni_salad wrote: post #56

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It pretty much replaced my WoW guild's forum overnight when we started using it for voice. The guy who was paying for the Mumble rental asked us to try it and we really liked it immediately. Pings that raiders will actually see, amazing. One click to join instead of having to dial thru a wizard with an IP and port (I know mumble had support for that but nobody knew how to use it, and WoW ingame chat does not let you…

That is actually it. Discord was the first app that could hold a candle to Mumble and it did everything in the browser without having to install a client or run a server. I don't understand the people who don't understand Discord's value proposition. When it was coming out it had basically no competitors. It was obvious as early as 2016 how popular discord will become. It is only now after the pandemic that the compe…

Thanks for the explanation. To address this:

> I don't understand the people who don't understand Discord's value proposition.

As somebody who doesn't really understand Discord's value proposition, it sounds like it heavily relates to the needs of collaborative online gamers. I spend zero time on that kind of game, so my experience of it is mainly as an ok chat for open-source projects, but often used where I want something other than chat.

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by esafak »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #40
bovermyer wrote: post #20

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Better than Teamspeak, yes. Better than IRC? Eh, I guess so. But let's chat about that "better than forums" supposition. - Forums are easy for search engines to index - Old threads on forums are easily discoverable - Forums have good threading in general - Individual forums are completely independent of each other (if one goes down, the others don't care) - It's easy to have completely different identities on differe…

You might be thinking of a very different user base. I have been using discord for a while and even more so now(unfortunately) after the whole reddit thing. But normal users probably do not care about any of that. You literally have people come in and ask a question that was literally asked and answered in the previous reply. People want an instant reply, they do not want to google for an answer. And the nature of th…

That disrespects the other people's time. The rational thing for them to do is to disengage and let the lazy people fend for themselves. Which means the community becomes deprived of experts, and people who value their time, possibly becoming useless and dying. I might have put up with it as an adolescent, but there's no way I'm doing that as an adult. As you suggest, the user base evolves as a result of product choices.

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Post by Tyr42 »

nkjnlknlk wrote: post #241
pmoriarty wrote: post #228

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Discord desperately needs threading. I prefer the Slack model where you can reply inside a thread and you replies stay within the thread instead of being scattered all over the place like IRC. I hate to admit it, but this is one thing that Slack does better than IRC, except that in that model you do miss seeing everything that's talked about in the channel (because many of the conversations are hidden in the threads)…

Discord does have threading and a pseudo-forum view as well. None of that changes its main societal flaw which is being a walled garden. So much loss of information.

I don't really want my wisecracking with my friends published forever, so WAI?

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by unsignedint »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #151
hardware2win wrote: post #27

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Ive used voips like mumble ts ventrilo (still had 2.1.4 exe on disk week ago) skype teams for like 15 years Discord was first to provide: Strong chat, voip, file share, video streaming and bots in one solution Lack of user hosted servers security mess - have you ever been DDoSd or stalked because you changed teams in MMORPG? In compare to enterprise shit: push2talk Also: identity per "server" Easy to invite: link ins…

> Discord was first to provide: > Also: identity per "server" But Discord doesn't provide identity per server. You get one identity, and if you want a different one you need to sign up for a new account using a new email address.

Perhaps the GP is referring to the display name. You get one user name but you can change how you are displayed per server. Nitro users can change the icon, too.

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Post by waboremo »

jjulius wrote: post #116
noirbot wrote: post #108

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Sure, but that's essentially just "we all agree capitalism sucks, right?" in more words. I'd rather I just get a free voice chat app forever, but given that that's not the way this current economy works, I'm going to take the wins where I can when a company is choosing to monetize in ways that are generally good for everyone involved. Discord, thus far, has generally been monetizing in ways I find pretty generally po…

>Discord, thus far, has generally been monetizing in ways I find pretty generally positive. I'm going to celebrate that until they actually start monetizing in shittier ways. I'd argue that's why we end up in the position we often end up in, as users. We take it little by little until it's too late. The "Well yeah that's capitalism and it sucks so /shrug, right?" argument feels kinda weak to me. If Discord's profitab…

That's kind of a big if. We're assuming the users are happy, but from what I've seen having to rely on Patreon or other external apps is making users unhappy.

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by esafak »

bee_rider wrote: post #59
bovermyer wrote: post #20

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Better than Teamspeak, yes. Better than IRC? Eh, I guess so. But let's chat about that "better than forums" supposition. - Forums are easy for search engines to index - Old threads on forums are easily discoverable - Forums have good threading in general - Individual forums are completely independent of each other (if one goes down, the others don't care) - It's easy to have completely different identities on differe…

Discord is good for real-time interactions. Discord+Wiki seems to hit the forum from both sides.

That doesn't work because nobody will search the wiki when chat is around, and it might be outdated so people will ask anyway "just in case".

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Post by esafak »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #99
d3nj4l wrote: post #94

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From the perspective of the average user: - Forums are easy for search engines to index : don’t care - Old threads on forums are easily discoverable : don’t care - Forums have good threading in general : don’t care - Individual forums are completely independent of each other (if one goes down, the others don't care) : don’t care - It's easy to have completely different identities on different forums : don’t care And…

If the average user is just someone who wants look at memes all day, sure.

This is the tragedy. People who don't want to put with this nonsense are being dragged into it because the communities of products they use live there.

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by vvillena »

vkou wrote: post #234
vvillena wrote: post #204

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> The average user [...] just want things to work. Indeed. This is why convenience means moving all things 'federation' to the background. Remember eDonkey, eMule, and the ED2K network? It started as a federated network, and it added a second decentralized network later on. And it was successful, because users didn't have to care about the inner workings of the product. There were a bunch of external sites acting as…

The problem is that while the users shouldn't care, they should also care (as the Lemmy instance you use does not want to federate with the one discussing CP).

In the end it's all about trusting a bunch of unpaid wardens.

Just like Reddit.

Re: Discord monetization: microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

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Post by unsignedint »

pxue wrote: post #21

I'm so confused by the love of discord. Maybe I'm dating myself but Can someone explain to me why it's better than traditional forum plus some VoIP like teamspeak?

Discord has gained immense popularity among Vtubers. In fact, many sign-up forms for Vtuber-related events assume that participants have a Discord account, at least within the Japanese Vtuber community (although its prevalence elsewhere is unclear). Additionally, Discord has seen widespread adoption within the VR community, such as in VRChat.

This popularity can be attributed to several key characteristics:

1. Vtubers are frequently involved in numerous events, commissions, and livestream collaborations, each with different stakeholders and often temporary in nature. Discord makes it incredibly easy to set up dedicated servers for each of these endeavors.

2. Discord's voice chat functionality is highly robust, making it a common choice for managing voice communication during livestreams that involve multiple participants.

3. Discord provides a centralized platform for coordination and infrastructure. This eliminates the need to set up additional systems with different user IDs and other complexities.

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