Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
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Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#2Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#3Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
The banging was likely the sound of hundreds of news organizations flogging this story to get more clicks.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#4Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days?
The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch.
This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship.
I of course would very much hope it imploded way before any psychological trauma was inflected on the passengers, but sadly I think the most consistent hypothesis with the little data we have is that it got lost and went astray for around two days then imploded.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#5Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of cou…
It unexpectedly lost communications about 2 hours into its decent. That is a possible/probable point in time where something went wrong.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#6I wonder if U.S. agencies (e.g. the Navy) had picked up the sound of the implosion days ago, back when the Titan was said to have lost communication, and knew all this time that the Titan had likely already been destroyed. But there's no incentive for them to publicly say anything, as it would hint to their underwater surveillance capabilities. And the "rescue effort" is good practice for their crews.
I watched most of the press conferences and don't think I heard anyone ask about it. But hearing loud noises across thousands of miles is certainly within the U.S. military's capability.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#7Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of cou…
"It imploded right away" explains everything.
"It imploded later" requires at least two failures, first of power/comms, and THEN of the structure itself.
Occam's Razor
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#8I wonder if U.S. agencies (e.g. the Navy) had picked up the sound of the implosion days ago, back when the Titan was said to have lost communication, and knew all this time that the Titan had likely already been destroyed. But there's no incentive for them to publicly say anything, as it would hint to their underwater surveillance capabilities. And the "rescue effort" is good practice for their crews. I watched most…
Seems likely, there's no point revealing classified capabilities in this context.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#9Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of cou…
There's little other explanation for why contact would be abruptly lost. The company said that the sub has multiple forms of ballast, including systems that could be activated manually, and ties that were designed to dissolve after 20+ hours in seawater, allowing the sub to rise even if the crew were unconscious.
> The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch.
That's not true, they've successfully reached the Titanic several times over a dozen or so expeditions. Mike Reiss (a famous writer for The Simpsons) said his trip reached the Titanic but got lost for most of the ~8 hour trip, but that another group on his trip had several hours to explore the Titanic.
Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers
#10Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of cou…
> Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days?
That would mean it had two mostly independent failures (which is less likely than one).