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I was working at Microsoft when Steve Ballmer said "No one is going to spend $500 on a phone" in response the iPhone. It's okay to own a truck even if you don't work on a farm. I own an f150 because it has way more legroom in the back than any SUV, it can haul my mountain bikes, and it's easy to haul stuff I buy from costco and home depot. Most of the time the back is empty. I don't think it makes me a horrible perso…
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What about the electric flavor of the F150? Is that acceptable for Texans? I don't mean any snark, I am legitimately curious as to how it's seen / been received?
Not in Texas but among my more conservative family members the ability of it to act as a backup battery during power outages makes up for the fact that it's electric. That's a huge deal. They're usually living in a more rural place where winter storms can knock out electricity for days.
Well, he is not wrong
About what? Real work or real people or both?
Translated from casual talk he means "The Cybertruck is, marketing, pricing, and capabilities wise, for rich nerds in more urban settings to show off in. Regular Joes in the country needing a truck for real rural work will still buy a regular truck".
So, it should go without saying, but real work in this context means "actual work that needs a truck as opposed to mere fancy-car-collecting/showing", and real people means "regular folks needing a truck, not some small minority fancying a sci-fi car based on its style and gadgetry".
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I'm not sure you need an SUV to take care of a family of four, but a lot of people in America specifically seem to feel that way. Elsewhere I guess the standards for comfort are different.
You definitely don't need anything - you can raise kids in the woods as our ancestors did. But I don't think large vehicles an American thing, it's a wealth thing. Eg in Japan, which is rich, pretty much anytime you see a family with kids on the road, they were in a Toyota Alphard (look it up, never heard of it till I saw them) which are huge vs typical car. Similarly around the world, the size of the typical family…
I really don't understand why a family would choose a truck over a estate car except for the increased safety against other trucks. It's a self-reinforcing effect, if there are more larger cars on the road, some people will purchase one just to feel safer against the others.
"I don't make trucks like that," Farley said. "I make trucks for real people who do real work, and that's a different kind of truck." You also make trucks that regular people don't need but buy anyway, and make our streets less safe. We need some regulation to only allow vehicles over a certain size to be commercial only.
> and make our streets less safe Agreed, but also, the Cybertruck seems like it is going to have very similar problems for safety. The blind spots are massive, for one.
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Physics dictates that mass has a significant impact on safety. Especially for people outside the big-ass truck.
> Physics dictates that mass has a significant impact on safety I suspect that once you have enough mass though then it is velocity that determines the impact on safety. Getting hit at 50 mph by a Ford F-150 that has a total mass (truck plus cargo) of 9000 pounds is not going to be much more harmful to a pedestrian than getting hit by a similar shaped truck at the same speed that has half that mass. Similarly on the…
and since that energy factors strongly into the outcome for the other vehicle, I suspect that this means weight is what determines the impact on safety just as much, if not moreso (particularly since speeds are regulated already)
In the market for a 3 row full-size SUV and Ford Expedition was on top of my list. But I guess as a software developer my work is not "real work" and I am not "real people" (whatever the fuck that means)? Shrug! Ford's off my list then.
"I don't make trucks like that," Farley said. "I make trucks for real people who do real work, and that's a different kind of truck." You also make trucks that regular people don't need but buy anyway, and make our streets less safe. We need some regulation to only allow vehicles over a certain size to be commercial only.
Here in Norway, anything that has an allowed total weight above 3500 kg is classified as a light truck and not a car, is limited to 80 km/h max speed and you need a different license to drive it (C1 instead of B). The C1 license training is much more extensive and costs a lot more. You also need to renew it every 5 years as it's really a "professional" license. I see the base F1 weighs 2900 kg without the driver. Tha…
I think your numbers are off. That's quite heavy.
"I don't make trucks like that," Farley said. "I make trucks for real people who do real work, and that's a different kind of truck." You also make trucks that regular people don't need but buy anyway, and make our streets less safe. We need some regulation to only allow vehicles over a certain size to be commercial only.
Here in Norway, anything that has an allowed total weight above 3500 kg is classified as a light truck and not a car, is limited to 80 km/h max speed and you need a different license to drive it (C1 instead of B). The C1 license training is much more extensive and costs a lot more. You also need to renew it every 5 years as it's really a "professional" license. I see the base F1 weighs 2900 kg without the driver. Tha…
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What's the rate of such collisions for trucks and sedans?
The linked article just looked at collisions that happened and compared danger by vehicle weight. If I had to guess, I would assume lighter vehicles generally have a shorter stopping distance and hit pedestrians less.