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Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Post by londons_explore »

HPsquared wrote: post #6
londons_explore wrote: post #3

I would like some meta-science done of 'experts'. For example, if I google "best doctor near me", and then go to all of the top 10 and present the same symptoms, how often will the recommendations given be the same? Or "Best furniture restorer" - how many will advise the same treatment to preserve my old wooden table? If we had some objective measure of the differences between expert opinions, we could perhaps start…

The problem there is that "most common opinion" is not necessarily the correct one, especially for a difficult problem.

True - but thats exactly why we want to be able to model it to find those rare but right experts for a given problem.

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Post by swexbe »

Timon3 wrote: post #15
shp0ngle wrote: post #12

From my point of view, as someone who is pro life, it’s fine; it’s like showing anti-suicide line when you look for “how to kill myself” Sure the person wants to kill himself but should he .

Then it would only be fair if abortion clinics show up on any searches for pediatricians, anything related to birth preparation, schools and the like.

False equivalence. Killing something and trying to stop someone from killing something is not the same.

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Post by 3pt14159 »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #13
potatototoo99 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like searching for how to commit suicide and the top results being about dissuading you from it?

The analogy would work if suicide was legal and desirable and there were reputable suicide services a la Futurama.

1. When you say "desirable" here you're speaking relatively. Abortion isn't intrinsically something that the vast majority of women want, what they want is to not be pregnant for one reason or another.

2. Many, many people have middle-of-the-road opinions about abortion. Nudging them into carrying the human to term and giving it up for adoption isn't akin to selling fake services, it's more akin to organ donation.

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Post by mrpopo »

shp0ngle wrote: post #12

From my point of view, as someone who is pro life, it’s fine; it’s like showing anti-suicide line when you look for “how to kill myself” Sure the person wants to kill himself but should he .

It's not like that, please read the article.

The ads are deceiving people into thinking they are going to an abortion clinic.

Google never banned anti-abortion ads, but they do ban misleading advertising.

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Post by pron »

shp0ngle wrote: post #12

From my point of view, as someone who is pro life, it’s fine; it’s like showing anti-suicide line when you look for “how to kill myself” Sure the person wants to kill himself but should he .

The same could be said for anti-vaxx websites appearing first when searching for vaccine information, and creationist websites appearing first when searching for information on natural history. Even if you don't think that the opinion of the respective professional/experts should be boosted over the opinion of people who are primarily not relevant professionals/experts, surely prioritising the the view of the overwhelming majority would be a more reasonable natural stance.

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Post by mellosouls »

As a counter, abortion seems to show up more strongly when searching for anti-abortion. That may be appropriate - and its fine to point out possible bias but I think the article is perhaps not really researching this in an impartial way.

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Post by calvinmorrison »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #16
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The analogy would work if suicide was legal and desirable and there were reputable suicide services a la Futurama.

There are 20 countries in the world where suicide is considered illegal, which is a weird concept on its own. Here’s the map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation . Now, if we talked about assisted suicide…

> Marijuana

Illegal, straight to jail, and morally bad

> Assisted Marijuana

Totally legal and morally good

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Post by HelloMcFly »

swexbe wrote: post #22
Timon3 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it would only be fair if abortion clinics show up on any searches for pediatricians, anything related to birth preparation, schools and the like.

False equivalence. Killing something and trying to stop someone from killing something is not the same.

Abortion is not killing, abortion is healthcare. Yes, I realize one's set of values will create disagreement on this, I'm not trying to build consensus here, but can't let such a statement about "killing" go uncommented on.
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