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French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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In the mean time, the French government is also sending out a call for projects [1] that increase cybersecurity, digital sovereignty and promote encryption of data. Just not for the common folk, but for startups. I find it funny (/s) that my current project is funded by the French government to develop end-to-end encryption in web applications [2]. Am I a terrorist too? [1] https://www.bpifrance.fr/nos-appels-a-proje…

> Am I a terrorist too?

Not yet, but give it time.

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uBlock Origin itself gave me oh what the fuck reaction but seems its gone now; text has been fixed already. No information on time of the edit was provided.

I still see it

Perhaps they reverted article back because an hour ago I was checking French text (thus my comment) in a new private window and uBlock wasn't mentioned and now indeed, it's there

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Yesterday the French government dissolved an environmental movement (which I don't like btw), amongst the reasons stated[0] are that they leave their phones at home or switch them off, refuse to talk to the police when arrested, or even that they organize their protest over the internet. When accused of authoritarian tendencies the government usually answers "go to China or North Korea to see what a dictatorship is l…

The situation in France is dire and crazy. This will not end well.

People have been slow-boiled and don't quite seem to realize the closest regime in Europe in terms of concentration of powers is Russia.

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>Why would volunteering to fight them ever be seen in a bad light? In part, because the YPG is seen by the french state as a terrorist group, for various political reasons, and also because having leftists trained in handling weapons is seemingly more terrifying to the government than having neonazis trained in handling weapons. Make of that what you will.

The French government disbanded various far-right groups that were not "neonazis trained in handling weapons" (last in date was the Identitaires).

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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I'm really curious as to why Macron govt is looked up to by a lot of Americans. American citizens, with all of the country's flaws, tends to have a lot more inherent civil rights than most of these governments.

Fear leads to support for authoritarianism. Covid, climate, nuclear war, economic uncertainty, etc.

I think it is more about fear silences sane people. Not that support for shady things increase. E.g. at work like 2 or 3 out of 20 are phsycotic war mongers to different degrees. There is always this implied "we will shoot you as a traitor if you disagree" if things turn to shit when you deal with that kind of people.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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OK, I can see where they're coming from with things like Signal. Not that I agree, but at least I can understand the reasoning behind it. But what is uBlock Origin's sin? A law-abiding citizen is supposed to be OK with seeing ads, or something? Can someone who reads French please elaborate on what the linked piece is saying about it?

The investigation partly relies on notes seized from the defendants which mention various privacy tools: GrapheneOS, LineageOS, Signal, Silence, Jitsi, OnionShare, F-Droid, Tor, RiseupVPN, Orbot, uBlock Origin…

According to investigators: "these elements confirm they were willing to live clandestinely".

According to the prosecution: "these notes consituted a real playbook allowing anonymous use of a phone, showing the person was willing to live in secrecy and hide their activities".

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In "pacific" Europe (specially in those countries where conscription is not mandatory) voluntarily taking weapons and going to a different country to kill people, no matter the reason, IS definitely considered radicalized, in the sense that it's very, very rare and "anti-social" behavior.

In my country it's legal to go to Ukraine and fight on the Ukrainian side. But fighting on the Russian side is illegal and is punishable by long prison terms even if you didn't commit any war crimes there. That applies to all residents of the country - including Russian citizens.

That's insane, what country is that?

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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It's not really a slippery slope, we've already arrived at the bad thing

yes, here is an article about "preventive detention of a climate activist" in Germany. https://newsrnd.com/news/2023-06-13-before-action-in-regensb... The issue here is that they seemed to have used the encrypted communications to proof criminal behavior.

This is why we can not, under any circumstances, budge on encryption and privacy. It is a fundamental right and I am willing to die on this hill.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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What is really appaling and frightening here is the level of ignorance, incompetence and technical illiteracy shown by the various magistrates, and how they can be manipulated by the storytelling. Unfortunately, I think it's fair to say that it's representative of the general level of expertise in the french judicial system. Want some laughs ? Look for "Olivier Laurelli", "Altice vs reflet.info"...
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