I swear to god the biggest red flag for any academic work is association with HBS. They perfected the art of bsing and writing airport books
Harvard dishonesty expert accused of dishonesty
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait a second, the blog which is bringing to light these issues is by academics who ARE seeking the truth. As someone in academia (very different field than Behavioral psych), I'm very cautious of people who say overgeneralised hyperbole such as: > I joined academia for the pursuit of truth, and forth the glory of Knowing. Because doing science is not clear concise straight forward exercise people envision. (Science…
> I joined academia for the pursuit of truth, and forth the glory of Knowing. I assume they said this from a position of naïveté and then after joining academia realized it was incorrect. I'm not sure we should use that to suggest a defect in character.
> I'm not sure we should use that to suggest a defect in character.
Apologies for the above poster if this was taken as an attack on their character, it wasn't.
Re: Harvard dishonesty expert accused of dishonesty
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait a second, the blog which is bringing to light these issues is by academics who ARE seeking the truth. As someone in academia (very different field than Behavioral psych), I'm very cautious of people who say overgeneralised hyperbole such as: > I joined academia for the pursuit of truth, and forth the glory of Knowing. Because doing science is not clear concise straight forward exercise people envision. (Science…
To be fair, my field was not in the sciences. Regardless, I left the tenure track due to disillusionment. I don’t presume that others had the same experience, and it is my earnest hope that most people do not. I was heavily encouraged to give high grades for high reviews and to publish high-volume, quality be damned. I hope that my leaving had some effect on the decision makers at my particular institution. But my im…
I think your experience is on par with a lot of scientists and academics, the issues you describe are present across nearly every field of science and academia. My comment was not meant to reduce your experience.
However, my main concern is that people enter academia due to some idealistic, romantic and preconceived ideas.
Science (and academia) isn't above the fray of humanities ugly side. It's done by people for people, its messy inefficient monster. I wish it weren't but that means taking the humanity out of it.
These are my crazy ideas. I am probably wrong.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
The goals before the 4 years were probably based on results claimed, not making a product. Research management is difficult and efficiently running a lab requires some degree of trust that researchers don't lie. I think the bigger part of management's fault here is that they should have spent some time on verifying the research before dedicating more resources.
Also setting up mechanisms to verify results and share results. Even a basic mechanism of “check in your code” would have served the purpose of identifying fake work. A code review mechanism can help stop irresponsible work.
“Check in your code” can identify certain kinds of blatant fraud, but it only does so much. For example, you can p-hack by evaluating your result in many different ways and then commit the version that gives the best number. It takes a lot of discipline to prevent this at an organization level. You can even have an emergent group form of this, where people collectively p-hack by individually evaluating their work and randomly finding lottery tickets. I’ve seen this phenomenon extend from research all the way to shipped product changes.
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#145The FT article says: 'A group of academics who compile the Data Colada blog about the evidence behind behavioural science has started publishing a series of posts in which they say they will detail “evidence of fraud in four academic papers” co-authored by Gino'. The first two of these blog posts are: https://datacolada.org/109 https://datacolada.org/110
From the second link: > students approached this “Year in School” question in a number of different ways. For example, a junior might have written “junior”, or “2016” or “class of 2016” or “3” (to signify that they are in their third year). All of these responses are reasonable. > A less reasonable response is “Harvard” [...] Nevertheless, the data file indicates that 20 students did so. Moreover, and adding to the p…
YOU SWITCHED THE SAMPLES.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is my friend, Doctor Kimble…
Re: Harvard dishonesty expert accused of dishonesty
#146The FT article says: 'A group of academics who compile the Data Colada blog about the evidence behind behavioural science has started publishing a series of posts in which they say they will detail “evidence of fraud in four academic papers” co-authored by Gino'. The first two of these blog posts are: https://datacolada.org/109 https://datacolada.org/110
from 110: > It is worth reiterating that to the best of our knowledge, none of Gino’s co-authors carried out or assisted with the data collection for the studies in this series. I'm confused; I thought 109 described a paper in which Ariely was the sole person to handle the data. How is this not contradictory?
The article in question has five co-authors. It reports four studies. Data Colada post 109 is about Study 1, which Gino handled.
An earlier Data Colada post -- https://datacolada.org/98 -- is about Study 3 in the same article. It seems that Ariely is the only co-author who might have handled the data for that study.
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#147Adding to the irony: She is the best-selling author, most recently, of “Rebel Talent: Why it Pays to Break the Rules in Work and Life.”
That doesn't seem ironic. Someone writing a book arguing for breaking the rules is exactly who I would expect to break the rules. Or is the irony here that someone actually took an idea seriously and followed through on it?
I suppose the irony is in the fact that it evidently didn't pay off because I can't imagine that one book was worth ruining her career.
I think the general thesis is questionable, for work especially, because in business contrary to the stereotype being honest and following the rules does pay off in the long run.
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#148Individual researchers have huge incentives for fraud, but large universities are the ones who most need to look inward here. HBS could become a beacon for stronger research practices in this area - requiring study preregistration and data collection methods that carefully trace provenance and changes. If HBS has fewer but better quirky marketing psychology studies, their reputation will do well. However for an indiv…
I’ve been involved in discussions over what numbers to give to the Board of Trustees. CFOs go to prison over this. It’s funny how greedy, for-profit companies are strict about honest accounting, while non-profit universities are fine with dodgy research.
Well you said it yourself, CFOs go to prison for it. I’m sure if as a society we treated academic fraud like financial fraud the situation would be different. I don’t think it’s linked to companies being for profit or not
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#149It’s behind a paywall.. also, just stop trusting anything anybody from a social science says. Pretty much everything they say is nonsense.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
They may be more diverse in terms of race and sexuality, but have very little diversity of opinion and worldview.
Little diversity of opinion and worldview how? (Should DEI teams be hiring people who are against diversity, equity, and inclusion?)
> Should DEI teams be hiring people who are against [...]
Yes, otherwise you're saying hiring is just a political test.