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Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by scrubs »

scrubs wrote: post #180
civilitty wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI so…

You wrote: "I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well!" I got news for you buddy: I and a hell of a lot of people know the difference between eating the menu (AI) and the meal (loved ones and dear friends). My lady is from south America, multi lingual, and has a better degree from a better school than I. Seriously, how are…

My comment above was up >0 ... if it's wrong I don't wanna be right.

There's an urban legend (maybe true) that steve job's didn't let his daughter have a iPhone. He insisted on books.

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Post by pelasaco »

Problems that doesnt exist for people living mostly disconnected. Go surf, have a family, friends, do jiu-jitsu, read books and restrict your interaction with AI just for the hours that you have to work. The life is too simple and too short to loose time with such issues.

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by strken »

mrtranscendence wrote: post #353
systems_glitch wrote: post #346

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It is estimated that between 50% and 70% of folks have no inner monologue.

That seems insane to me. I'm always chattering away up there, I can't imagine it otherwise.

I have an inner monologue, but it's just one of many different ways to think and I don't always choose to use it.

What happens when you consider a spatial problem like an IQ test? Do you have to talk your way through it? If you see an art piece, do you only appreciate it through the monologue, or does it feel beautiful in a non-verbal way too?

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by ChatGTP »

civilitty wrote: post #39
softbt wrote: post #17

Really don’t like the idea that we will act as interfaces for the AI, I honestly believe it will only many the majority of people lazier and dumber. I’m also incredibly shocked that no one is talking about AI as a friend/companion, that has to not be good for you in the long run. Humans need real human connection, AI is too artificial for that (duh). Having AI friends will be equivalent to consuming fast food instead…

I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI so…

Is that you, Mark ? Sam ?

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Post by dr_dshiv »

mkl wrote: post #377
systems_glitch wrote: post #346

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It is estimated that between 50% and 70% of folks have no inner monologue.

One of them was Albert Einstein: "The words of the language, as they are written or spoken, do not seem to play any role in my mechanism of thought." -- https://www.creativitypost.com/article/aping_einstein#:~:tex... Your comment seems like a non sequitur.

Wow, it’s a sourced quote too (rare for Einstein on the internet). How do you write a paper without thinking in words? I need to talk to someone who doesn’t think in words, I just can’t believe it otherwise.

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Post by RGamma »

personjerry wrote: post #365
legendofbrando wrote: post #326

Counter point: sure they are. Humans are highly adaptable and like other changes to information availability in the past they will adapt. This is what societal norms and cultural memes are for. “Don’t believe everything you hear” “Don’t believe what you see on TV” “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” These are all ways that the human species uses memes and cultural norms to teach ourselves how not to f…

50 years ago humans weren't prepared for a smartphone, internet "post-connected" world and here we are. We adapt and grow.

Grow? More like derail... Where have you been the past decade and how do I get there?

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Post by highwaylights »

krapp wrote: post #380
personjerry wrote: post #365

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50 years ago humans weren't prepared for a smartphone, internet "post-connected" world and here we are. We adapt and grow.

Someone would argue that humans still haven't adapted to smartphones or the internet post-connected world and that constant connectivity is a cancer that's destroying our minds, emotions and civilization at large.

It feels weird that you can state something so obvious so far down a thread and it’s literally the only mention of it.

We haven’t adapted successfully, we aren’t adapting successfully and we won’t adapt successfully.

We were way better off before smartphones. Looking back on it now, we may have been even better off before the Internet.

By any conceivable perspective you would care to measure we’re failing abysmally as a collective at identifying fact from fiction.

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by dr_dshiv »

jackjeff wrote: post #360
mrtranscendence wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems insane to me. I'm always chattering away up there, I can't imagine it otherwise.

Wow. I had no idea that was a thing. I thought that’s just something they do in movies. But I don’t have a mind’s eye either (aphantasia). So I guess that’s on brand for me. That doesn’t mean I can’t “talk to myself” in a way or think about stuff. I just have no auditory sensation whatsoever. It’s just abstract/immaterial reasoning. I’d wager if I did an FMRI the audio part would not light up but the speech part woul…

You don’t have visual dreams?

If I say “pink elephant,” you don’t one? Or better yet, if i say “Dumbo,” you don’t see the ears?

You don’t hear songs in your head?

If I write “I’ll be back” you don’t hear it now in a thick German accent?

Inconceivable! (As they say)

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by dv_dt »

highwaylights wrote: post #397
krapp wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone would argue that humans still haven't adapted to smartphones or the internet post-connected world and that constant connectivity is a cancer that's destroying our minds, emotions and civilization at large.

It feels weird that you can state something so obvious so far down a thread and it’s literally the only mention of it. We haven’t adapted successfully, we aren’t adapting successfully and we won’t adapt successfully. We were way better off before smartphones. Looking back on it now, we may have been even better off before the Internet. By any conceivable perspective you would care to measure we’re failing abysmally a…

It's difficult to separate the effects of smartphones and wildly increasing wealth inequality.

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by dv_dt »

personjerry wrote: post #365
legendofbrando wrote: post #326

Counter point: sure they are. Humans are highly adaptable and like other changes to information availability in the past they will adapt. This is what societal norms and cultural memes are for. “Don’t believe everything you hear” “Don’t believe what you see on TV” “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” These are all ways that the human species uses memes and cultural norms to teach ourselves how not to f…

50 years ago humans weren't prepared for a smartphone, internet "post-connected" world and here we are. We adapt and grow.

And before that people had worries about TV(dancing and rock and roll), and radio (war of the worlds), multiple music related scares sprinkled throughout.
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