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Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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> There are even people so confused about food prices that they make claims that fast food is cheaper than groceries. I live in an expensive part of NYC and have to go decently far out (by subway, I don't have a car) to find groceries that are cheaper than local fast food unless I want to eat mostly rice and beans. Add in the costs of my time to shop, transport groceries, cook, and clean, it's significantly cheaper t…

>Add in the costs of my time to shop, transport groceries, cook, and clean, it's significantly cheaper to eat out most of the time You can get overtime whenever you want? Because if you are salary, your after-work time pays 0$/hr. >unless I want to eat mostly rice and beans. Seems like you don't want to cook, and have justified it with time costs. Prepared food is not going to be cheaper than unprepared food.

> your after-work time pays 0$/hr.

I'm sure no economist would agree with the kind of perspective. I mean, yeah, it pays 0$/hr... but it doesn't mean it's worth just 0$/hr.

> Prepared food is not going to be cheaper than unprepared food

Only if you believe after-work time worths 0$. (I don't think anyone seriously believes this)

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On a similar note, I'll take the AI medical advice any day of the week. Had a buddy describe a difficult morning and I opened chatGPT to diagnose, it suggested he had a stroke. My buddy was not going to the hospital because its so expensive, but since chatGPT said it was a stroke, and his symptoms matched the stroke, he went to the hospital. He had a stroke. On a similar note, I am stable and don't need therapy, but…

> I was never going to pay for therapy, this gave me some insight and actually made me interested in therapy. ChatGPT could never be as bad as most human therapists, at least if it tells lies they're believable and it won't try to insult, belittle, or infantalize you. Medical usage is perhaps the single most interesting use of ChatGPT to me, the problem will be solving the liability issue should it get something wron…

> Why burden the healthcare system when you have a simple infection and all you need is a round of Amoxicillin?

Human: "I have a runny nose, congestion, and a cough. Can I have some antibiotics so I can feel better?"

AI: "It sounds like you have a common cold. Unfortunately, antibiotics won't help; there's no known cure. Luckily, it should clear up in a few days."

Human: "Ok. What are some common illnesses that do need antibiotics?"

AI: "Ear infections and strep throat are the most common illnesses which are treated with antibiotics."

Human: "What are the symptoms of an ear infection?"

AI: "Symptoms include pain in the ear, difficulty hearing, and fluid draining from the ear."

Human: "I forgot to mention before, I have had a hard time hearing lately and my ear is very painful."

AI: "It sounds like you have an ear infection. Here's a scrip for amoxicillin."

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I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI so…

Can you install it in those automated sliding doors we have in places like grocery stores?

We're working on it! We won a contract with the CIA to supply their blacksites with the first LEEDS certified energy efficient sliding glass doors embedded with Genuine People Personality, programmed to maximize the joy the patrons experience every time they enter the facilities.

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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It seems to me that we have been living in this world for some time now. Ai explains the sheer amount of political astroturfing we have experienced in recent years, it's just that the cat is out of the box now and there's noone to be held accountable.

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Eh, this is far messier than you're making it out to be and something that was never thought of when our laws were created. Had human level AI agents existed at the time we wrote the constitution I can assure you it would have been written different. For example, our conversation now. You take for granted it's between two humans, in fact you likely assume it's from someone in your own country. And based on the conten…

> Had human level AI agents existed at the time we wrote the constitution I can assure you it would have been written different. You can assure me of that? Really? Edit: If you're going to downvote me, how about you instead provide an explanation of how this can be assured? Or, you know, GFY.

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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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'Oxford Dictionaries popularly defined it as "relating to and denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief."' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth Since when did objective facts drive or shape public opinion? When did humans ever live in a "truth world"? Take the title and the content of the article itself. Does it aim t…

Yes, I think you've touched on something here that goes all the way back to Aristotle's three appeals (logos, ethos, pathos).

His belief was that a good argument relies on a balance, between appeals to logic (logos), appeals to emotion (pathos), and appeals to what is just / ethical (ethos).

People typically claim logic or objectivity as a simple shorthand for "better", they rarely include formal inductive and deductive logic.

And while formal logic can tremendously enhance the structure and impact arguments, it provides a hollow foundation without appeals to what is right/just, and of little motivation to the reader without appeals to their emotion.

The horrifying thing about our species, is that when you get down to it we care little for formal logic. Caring requires emotion, and emotion often requires ideals about how things should be; consequently, ethos and pathos are necessary for logos.

The pursuit of logic comes last, or as you've noted, sometimes not at all.

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> There are even people so confused about food prices that they make claims that fast food is cheaper than groceries. I live in an expensive part of NYC and have to go decently far out (by subway, I don't have a car) to find groceries that are cheaper than local fast food unless I want to eat mostly rice and beans. Add in the costs of my time to shop, transport groceries, cook, and clean, it's significantly cheaper t…

>Add in the costs of my time to shop, transport groceries, cook, and clean, it's significantly cheaper to eat out most of the time You can get overtime whenever you want? Because if you are salary, your after-work time pays 0$/hr. >unless I want to eat mostly rice and beans. Seems like you don't want to cook, and have justified it with time costs. Prepared food is not going to be cheaper than unprepared food.

Overtime or another job?

If five fast food workers can prepare 100 meals in the time I can prepare 1, there should be some monetary savings shared with me (the customer) unless my time is truly worth close to 0. That's how economies of scale work.

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I don’t like how they are using AI as an excuse to argue for increased censorship, what difference does it make what type of software the computer is giving information from? This is a potentially sneaky way of getting around freedom of speech, by somehow arguing that if an idea is recycled by a language model it is suddenly OK to censor it, as long as you’re a few degrees of separation from the original blog. What t…

> What the heck else is post-truth supposed to mean?? An environment where it's become difficult to tell what is true and what isn't. You could also phrase it as, what's real and what isn't. An epistemic crisis. I think we crossed into a post-truth world 7 or 8 years ago (it's been in process for at least a couple of decades) so it's not like AI precipitated this crisis, but it will accelerate it to new levels.

Right, we already live in a post-truth world where it's politicians and journalists who omit or twist facts to support their agenda. It's not just politicians and journalists who do this, but they tend to have the most reach and influence on average.

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Whew it's satire. Whew. I've literally seen posts on the internet that read like this sans the satire.

I mean, it's also real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSKKolgL2U https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replika

There's also Forever Voices, which offers those who have formed unhealthy parasocial relationships with real-life streamers/influencers the opportunity to talk to an AI version of them for $1 per minute. FV started out making novelty chatbots of people like Trump and Steve Jobs, but they seem to have made a hard pivot to exploiting desperately lonely people after realising how much more lucrative it could be.

https://www.polygon.com/23736317/amouranth-ai-chatbot-date-i...

https://fortune.com/2023/05/09/snapchat-influencer-launches-...

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