This is hit piece by rupert murdoch, who has some kind of insane grudge against google, which is funny when you think about - grandpa telling the kids to get off his lawn.
The Mounting Minuses at Google+
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#42How is G+ different? What does it do better? Here's what I want to see: Facebook took media, Google+ should take mobile. It seems to me that it is a positioning problem.
Facebook has made big moves recently to be the place to share all media (news papers, music, movies, tv etc) through their announced partnerships. Sharing media is something we've been waiting for and users have been doing themselves for years. For all the complaints, privacy concerns, user experience changes -- it seems to be going quite well.
However, Facebook's mobile apps have been atrocious. They are just recently approaching usable. How long did we have to wait for an iPad version of the Facebook app? Considering how often and how long people access Facebook from mobile devices it is astonishing that the mobile experience is what it is. Where is the innovation?
Google has an army of Android devices -- just take mobile and make the most awesome, seamless, integrated mobile experience ever. Partner with everything that's cool in the physical world. Social people get out and do things. Google+ should bridge the gap between offline and online social experiences. Android android android.
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#43If I want to post publicly to my "followers" (people I don't know) I use Twitter, if I want to post to my friends I use Facebook, for me and almost everyone else I've spoken to Google+ offers no value. I still don't understand what Google was thinking with +, it offers nothing to most people. The only good feature is hangouts which could easily be a separate product. I have around 150 friends on Facebook and I see a…
If I want to post publicly to my "followers" (people I don't know) I use Twitter, [...] I still don't understand what Google was thinking with + How about publicly post long form content to your followers? Because G+ excels in that, and both Facebook and Twitter fail at it. There's a network effect problem, for sure, but it does have a purpose in the situation you outline.
So you're really arguing that the size of the textbox is what distinguishes it from the other services? Most people post to their blog and distribute the links if they want to share something longer form.
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#44Everyone knows G+ is using better and cleaner tech than facebook or twitter, but social networks are defined by, and made vastly more valuable by their total network size and so facebook with its billions of users will probably be on top for some time to come.
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#45the problem is simple: no one wants to maintain multiple social accounts. if all my friends migrated exclusively to G+, it would be fine, i would as well. but for that to happen, all of their friends would need to migrate...and so on. i deleted my g+ account a week ago because no one has only a g+ account, everyone on g+ is ALSO on FB. as long as there continues to be a significant majority of content posted to FB (i…
Yeah I agree - I am only on one social network site - twitter. I can't be bothered with FB.
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#46Last time I checked G+ my feed looks like a mix of photo gallery and Google fan club.
It is really really weird. All social groups have circle-jerky tendency, none is as apparent at the scale as G+
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#47I've found the (somewhat public-facing) science and (academic) math content and discussion to be great on google+. Not being more popular might hurt the service long term if it gets shut down, but I really enjoy it right now, so I don't particularly care.
Facebook I use mostly to keep up with family members and friends getting married and having kids, which is fine. Twitter continues to be a great pseudo-rss feed, streaming in tons of content in such easily digestible bite-sized pieces (but every time I try to figure out the course of conversation between other people I remember why I hate their interface). Google's plan may have been to be all things to all people and they haven't been able to, but it's good for me right now for finding interesting stories and very interesting people to talk with and learn from in the niches I care about. The interface is designed for back and forth conversation, and the signal to noise ratio is such that I actually enjoy it. Again, for now, why would I care about more than that?
> While Intel gets dozens of responses to its posts on Google+ Ms. Walter said the company has nine million "fans" on Facebook and gets thousands of comments there.
This (and the trending-twitter-content/youtube-comment quality of the thousands of comments you get on those posts) is exactly the problem with public discussions on Facebook. Really it's a problem that no social network has been able to solve as it scales up as far as I know. 100s of millions of people are going to cause serious tragedies of the commons, of course, but we also get the growing pains of reddit and, to a lesser extent, HN. Hopefully google+ can maintain it's comfortable minuses for a little while longer.
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#48A marking difference is that Facebook asks "What's on your mind?" and Google+ asks "Share what's new...". G+ isn't really a social network, it's an extension to my Google profile and Google account. I would like to use it as my social network but it's lacking a couple of crucial things. The reason it's suited for almost sharing news only and as an ad-hoc blogging service is because it doesn't allow you to actually be…
Agreed. There were suggestions early on that you can just make a post limited to one person (instead of a circle or public), but for some reason that feels really awkward even though it's easy to do. I'm not sure why that is. Maybe because it ends up in the same stream as everything else?
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#49Let's face it people, Google has reached the zenith of it's trajectory, and it is now a fading flower, and it knows it.
Yes, it has had some amazing products and innovations, but everything since Android has smacked of desperation and greed (SPYW anyone?).
And any time Google attempts something Social, I just want to cringe. Why? Because Google just ain't cool. It really ain't. And Social is all about following and being friends with the cool people.
Google is kind of the corporate manifestation of the dorky geek who lives under the delusion that being in the accelerated maths class and attending the school science fair are "cool" activities, mainly because they have been fooled by teachers trying to promote intellectual activities, only to be beaten on at the bus stop after class, and can never work out why.
Google+ was basically Google's last great hope, it has no other major products on the horizon, and is clearly running out of sensible ideas (digital display sunglasses case in point). Coupled with Apple's almost unspeakable, shining success in the mobile/tablet market it is perhaps not surprising that Google has developed a bitter and aggressive attitude (Page's SPYW or fuck off) driven by envy and greed, and has left it's "don't be evil, give away amazing products for free" mantra in the dust for "exploit anything vaguely profitable, kill the rest".
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#50If I want to post publicly to my "followers" (people I don't know) I use Twitter, if I want to post to my friends I use Facebook, for me and almost everyone else I've spoken to Google+ offers no value. I still don't understand what Google was thinking with +, it offers nothing to most people. The only good feature is hangouts which could easily be a separate product. I have around 150 friends on Facebook and I see a…
I never really got Twitter. I found the 140 character limit quite infuriating and ended up deleting my account. Google+ for me is Twitter without the limitations that I found frustrating.
As to how busy your stream will be, if you only follow quiet people then you won't see much in the way of posts. There are a lot of people on Google+ sharing/creating interesting content. It's just a matter of searching for them.