Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
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Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#2This is awful. It seems Red Hat (and probably IBM) are unhappy that Alma and Rocky have so successfully replaced the old CentOS.
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#3This is awful. It seems Red Hat (and probably IBM) are unhappy that Alma and Rocky have so successfully replaced the old CentOS.
Why? Afaik they are build from Centos Stream, just like RHEL. So nothing changes.
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#4Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#5This is awful. It seems Red Hat (and probably IBM) are unhappy that Alma and Rocky have so successfully replaced the old CentOS.
Why? Afaik they are build from Centos Stream, just like RHEL. So nothing changes.
I thought they were using git.centos.org which used to be the RHEL sources?
Centos stream sources are what will become the next RHEL major or minor release. So if(?) RH is adding further stuff on top of Centos stream after forking those changes would not be available to non-customers?
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#6This is awful. It seems Red Hat (and probably IBM) are unhappy that Alma and Rocky have so successfully replaced the old CentOS.
Why? Afaik they are build from Centos Stream, just like RHEL. So nothing changes.
How? Rocky Linux is a RHEL clone, and RHEL isn't a direct copy from CentOS stream
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#7This is awful. It seems Red Hat (and probably IBM) are unhappy that Alma and Rocky have so successfully replaced the old CentOS.
Why? Afaik they are build from Centos Stream, just like RHEL. So nothing changes.
Neither are building from CentOS Stream - they are building from the same source that is in the final RHEL release, not a rolling release like CentOS Stream.
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#8For those who are out of the loop, like I was, here is how I'm understanding this...
"CentOS" tracked behind RHEL, and is considered more stable? Regardless, CentOS 7 is the last supported major version, and it's reaching EOL soon and will not be maintained. This sounds like a push to get those who use CentOS (free) to move to RHEL (paid) to stay in the long-cycle ecosystem.
"CentOS Stream" is a flavor that tracks ahead of RHEL, is less stable, and is really meant for those who develop on RHEL.
Since the original CentOS is no longer supported, you had new flavors come up (specifically Rocky Linux and Alma Linux) designed to fill the void to track behind RHEL.
However, it appears they rely on the open-source RHEL for their builds. It sounds like this is going away now, and the only open-source linux RedHat is gonna publish freely is CentOS Stream.
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or missed something!
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Afaik they are build from Centos Stream, just like RHEL. So nothing changes.
Then why is Red Hat doing this?
Management doesn't directly know the pain of an engineer. This business heirarchy is akin to management being the body's "hands" while engineers are the "feet".
This easily accommodates the option of shooting one's self in the foot.
Re: Final nail in the coffin of Red Hat rebuilds?
#10I think what Red Hat did to CentOS is a real shame. But seeing that it's Red Hat, it's not surprising.