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Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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Re: Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume it's a bit like how a few straight people used to object to the term 'straight', generally complaining that they were just 'normal' people (haven't seen this in years, but it was big in the nineties and early noughties from the more over-sensitive corners of the right wing). Though arguably even more absurd; 'cisgender' is the rough equivalent to the rather dry technical term 'heterosexual', and I've never h…

"A bit like" is underselling it. It is that. Occasionally, I politely ask people objecting to the term "cis" what word they would prefer I use instead. I've had people directly tell me I should refer to cis people as "normal". Another, much more interesting response I've gotten multiple times is that I should use "man/woman" instead of "cis". Which implies that transgender people either don't exist, or don't belong t…

> Which implies that transgender people either don't exist, or don't belong to either category.

Which is a bit odd, as the same general sort of people seem to believe it is just the _height_ of wit to refer to trans women as men.

Re: Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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post #6

How are these terms a slur, exactly? They just describe a property of being.

I haven't heard "cis" deployed as a slur, but "incel" seems to be predominantly used that way. Isn't it also a property of being?

It's not an intrinsic property, as it only comes into existence due to social interactions. An individual, viewed fully removed from all other humans, can be cis or trans, but they can only be involuntarily celibate in the context of a society.

Re: Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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Elon moves on personal, and, at times, trivial influences. His offer to buy Twitter may have been precipitated by a girlfriend who thought the Babylon Bee was being unjustly banned from Twitter. Twitter hired some first-rate lawyers to draft the agreement, and then it snowballed from an amusing gesture to possibly the worst LBO in history.

This at least can be partly attributed to Musk having a child who is trans. He seems very unsettled by that.

Re: Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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How are these terms a slur, exactly? They just describe a property of being.

In the context they were used, I can see how they can be considered a slur.

The context was that some people were calling someone a "cissy".

https://twitter.com/UKHomosexual/status/1671428042072129537/...

Re: Elon Musk says terms 'cisgender' and 'cis' are now considered 'slurs' on Twitter

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post #8

How are these terms a slur, exactly? They just describe a property of being.

I assume it's a bit like how a few straight people used to object to the term 'straight', generally complaining that they were just 'normal' people (haven't seen this in years, but it was big in the nineties and early noughties from the more over-sensitive corners of the right wing). Though arguably even more absurd; 'cisgender' is the rough equivalent to the rather dry technical term 'heterosexual', and I've never h…

> 'cisgender' is the rough equivalent to the rather dry technical term 'heterosexual'

I'm pretty sure 'cisgender' means "identifies as birth gender" and has no connection to your sexual preferences (hence 'cishet' being 'identifies as birth gender, attracted to opposite gender'.)

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