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Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by fullshark »

m1el wrote: post #14

I am not scared for AI overflowing the news sites with bullshit. We already have a fire hydrant worth of bullshit content produced for consumption. Lies and fakes have coexisted with humans forever. People did rumours, then we had books, press, radio, television, and now the Internet. "But it's easier to produce lies/deepfakes today" -- true. However, the absolute cost of producing a lie per consumer already was negl…

You can see this with information sources in our lifetime. Cable news networks and infotainment channels like the Discovery/History Channel turned to garbage so people stopped trusting them. The same will happen to the internet / social media sites.

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Post by varelse »

BizarreByte wrote: post #37
softbt wrote: post #17

Really don’t like the idea that we will act as interfaces for the AI, I honestly believe it will only many the majority of people lazier and dumber. I’m also incredibly shocked that no one is talking about AI as a friend/companion, that has to not be good for you in the long run. Humans need real human connection, AI is too artificial for that (duh). Having AI friends will be equivalent to consuming fast food instead…

> Having AI friends will be equivalent to consuming fast food instead of healthy home cooked meals growing up A person who is starving will do better with fast food than with no food at all. It's far from ideal, but for some people this will make their lives marginally more tolerable.

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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by MH15 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #75
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI has a good niche as confidante for people with serious issues and no close friend/therapist to approach about them. This is unfortunately a large niche. And if it displaces public social media... That is a net gain. But yeah, overall the fast food analogy is a fitting one.

I wonder if AI could help a user bootstrap into real human sociability.

Here the incentives align to keep the user on the app.

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Post by kelseyfrog »

tgv wrote: post #52
digitalsushi wrote: post #4

We may not be ready but we may as well get ready. I would strongly prefer to work with skeptical people again. Skeptics can be convinced, they just need evidence. Although I am genuinely intrigued by AI running out of things to ingest, and moving onto AI generated content. Is the snake starting to eat its tail?

Skeptical people? You mean people who distrust everything? Because "post truth" doesn't stimulate to question reality, it incites total distrust. After which society heads straight for dismantling the state, and all the violence that comes with it.

We already have post truth behavior in our society, it just isn't well distributed at the moment. Imagine a society where every response looked like the stereotypical HN top comment, "Actually, the opposite is true..." Here the behavior is rewarded, presumably it makes the community better and results in a diversity of thought. I'm curious why wouldn't this be similarly rewarded in the offline world?

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23B1 wrote: post #66

The only way through is to teach information literacy. One of the best (but not the only) way to learn this is by studying the trivium/quadrivium – formal logic, reasoning, rhetoric. Once you see how information can be manipulated, it becomes very clear HOW MUCH of it really is. Initially it can be maddening, but eventually it becomes empowering.

Formal logic is a great tool for rationalization too, which is ultimately how most people seem to use it in my experience.

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Post by x86x87 »

thumbuddy wrote: post #57
civilitty wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI so…

Whew it's satire. Whew. I've literally seen posts on the internet that read like this sans the satire.

No. It's not satire. It's art!

Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’

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Post by x86x87 »

Havoc wrote: post #53

The comment by Yuval Noah Harari seemed insightful to me. If you argue against a bot about a political matter, not knowing it’s a bot - you always lose on a long enough timeline. ie you can never pursuade the bot but it can wear you down / eventually find an argument that works. The only winning move is not to play. So I could see this having a chilling effect on all discourse Aside from the whole skynet thing the ab…

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