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Re: Ethical Capitalism

#11
An alternative proposal, (not only about capitalism) can be: 1st step, people vote programs, the things to do. 2nd step, people vote who will actuate programs. Quite abstract, i know

Re: Ethical Capitalism

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post #6

"Governments have repeatedly proven themselves unable to react efficiently to contemporary problems" I really hate when people blame the government for things. We are the government. If you don't like the asshole that represents you work to get rid of them. People need to start holding politicians to be less corrupt. for instance, terms limits well stop voting the person back into office.

Agreed we need to take things into our own hands and feel responsible. I do not believe the solution is to vote for slightly different people. The problem is that a central authority is always doomed to fail. The world is too complex now. We need to decentralize decisions, and vote in a much more granular fashion.

Central Authority is always doomed to fail if that Authority is charged with acting on behalf of a divided population with conflicting objectives. In order to make change, you actually need to change minds and hearts of individuals. This can't be done from the top down.

In practical terms, the public focus on US federal policy is that best of distraction and at worst counterproductive for change. People need to focus more on opt-in local policy. Be and. demonstrate the change that you want to see in the world. If it is good, others will take notice overtime and come on board.

Re: Ethical Capitalism

#13
post #8

> "Our ruling elites have ignored the issue for decades. Not because they did not care, but because they had no idea how to solve it." Being elites, they did not care, because they had no idea how to solve it, and remain elites. Capitalism is not bad -per se-, as socialism, public, or private, etc, but how we put this in pratice, and balance pros with cons, and adapt to changing situations. Actually economy and finan…

Some people indeed want a much more radical change than an upgrade on Capitalism. I do not see any concrete proposal though, and I feel it would be more difficult to implement than an upgrade.

Re: Ethical Capitalism

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post #11

An alternative proposal, (not only about capitalism) can be: 1st step, people vote programs, the things to do. 2nd step, people vote who will actuate programs. Quite abstract, i know

I think this is also an interesting idea. That could certainly be an improvement on the status quo.

Re: Ethical Capitalism

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed we need to take things into our own hands and feel responsible. I do not believe the solution is to vote for slightly different people. The problem is that a central authority is always doomed to fail. The world is too complex now. We need to decentralize decisions, and vote in a much more granular fashion.

Central Authority is always doomed to fail if that Authority is charged with acting on behalf of a divided population with conflicting objectives. In order to make change, you actually need to change minds and hearts of individuals. This can't be done from the top down. In practical terms, the public focus on US federal policy is that best of distraction and at worst counterproductive for change. People need to focus…

I generally agree with that. Ethical Capitalism is also a way to localize problems.

Re: Ethical Capitalism

#16

> Our ruling elites have ignored the issue for decades. Not because they did not care, but because they had no idea how to solve it. Mostly, it is because they don’t care—it is a problem for other people, not them, except to the extent that those other people get upset and destabilize the system that enriches the elites. Secondarily, because they understand how to solve it, but it is contrary to their own interests.…

I am willing to be a bit more generous in my interpretation, and assume it comes more from the difficulty of solving problems as a central authority, rather than cynical egotism. But I can see how one can arrives to your viewpoint, and in any case I think we both arrive to the same conclusion: expecting the current forms of governments to solve modern problems is doomed to fail.
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