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Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Re: Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Post by sircastor »

foxyv wrote: post #7
hospitalJail wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My MBA mostly pointed them to having the best marketing campaigns. I never once read or had a discussion about the quality of the employees. I suppose employees are the people making the marketing plans, but these aren't the people unionizing.

A huge part of the Apple marketing are their retail locations and "Geniuses." A great deal of the reason I bought my first Apple product was because of an employee in an Apple Store.

Hasn’t Apple abandoned the whole Genius thing? It seemed to me that the Genius Bar is basically gone. You can still get help, and they fix stuff, but it’s not what it was when Apple Stores opened 20 years ago.

Re: Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Post by onion2k »

40yearoldman wrote: post #11
lscdlscd wrote: post #2

Just goes to show how effective unionizing is. Power to those workers! They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world. They deserve a fair share.

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Yet think currently the top 1% is paying over 50% of all taxes.

There's a few things to consider with this statement. First, and most importantly, everyone in the US who has more than $1m is in the top 1% by wealth, including assets. That illustrates how little money most people have.

Secondly, the top 1% captured 54% of the wealth generated in the last decade, so paying 50% of the tax sounds about right.

Lastly, we're not really talking about the top 1% because most of them are just people who lucked into buying a house in an area that subsequently became gentrified, or they got lucky with some stock options, or whatever. It's people who own more than $100m who have the sort of capital that enables them to pay very fancy accountants to get their tax burden down to single digit percentages. They're also the ones who get their companies to do union-busting tactics, because next year they want to own $200m.

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Post by notwhereyouare »

0x5345414e wrote: post #15
JimtheCoder wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world." ...

Yeah I’m not sure I agree with that statement either…

let go all of the employees that work for apple an see how long they are still in business. Don't think the CEO is making their iphones on the line

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Post by ThisIsNowhere »

40yearoldman wrote: post #11
lscdlscd wrote: post #2

Just goes to show how effective unionizing is. Power to those workers! They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world. They deserve a fair share.

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For the past half century, inflation adjusted wages have remained basically flat while productivity has more than doubled. The 1% heirs have captured almost all of that growth. So that is the source of this funding - the heirs expropriate the profit of surplus labor time to finance the government which oversees that expropriation.

Re: Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Post by JimtheCoder »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #24
0x5345414e wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I’m not sure I agree with that statement either…

let go all of the employees that work for apple an see how long they are still in business. Don't think the CEO is making their iphones on the line

"Don't think the CEO is making their iphones on the line"

Neither are the people unionizing here...

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Post by spacemadness »

hospitalJail wrote: post #5
lscdlscd wrote: post #2

Just goes to show how effective unionizing is. Power to those workers! They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world. They deserve a fair share.

My MBA mostly pointed them to having the best marketing campaigns. I never once read or had a discussion about the quality of the employees. I suppose employees are the people making the marketing plans, but these aren't the people unionizing.

Sounds like solid MBA logic to me. May as well lay some more people off.

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Post by 93po »

ethbr0 wrote: post #17
lscdlscd wrote: post #2

Just goes to show how effective unionizing is. Power to those workers! They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world. They deserve a fair share.

Indeed. Companies hate unions because they increase labor costs and benefits. Does anyone really think corporate anti-union talking points are in their workers' best interest? Unions have their faults (e.g. bureaucracy), but corporations aren't fighting them for their employees' benefit.

> Does anyone really think corporate anti-union talking points are in their workers' best interest?

Yes, usually at least half the workforce.

But but but the monthly dues!!!

Re: Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Post by photochemsyn »

You know, Apple's shareholders and corporate board could be entirely replaced by AI and it wouldn't hurt the profitability of the company... and think of all the money that could be saved! They could invest in moving their entire production line back to the USA and then wouldn't have to worry about supply chain disruptions, while also expanding their research & development division to keep ahead of the competition.

Why isn't this the top target for AI when it comes to replacing useless baggage in the corporate world?

Re: Apple's union-busting practices violated employee rights at NYC store

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Post by lokar »

Eumenes wrote: post #12
lscdlscd wrote: post #2

Just goes to show how effective unionizing is. Power to those workers! They're a key part in making Apple one of the most valuable companies in the world. They deserve a fair share.

They are effective indeed, esp. as political donations go - who would've thought the carpenters union donates more to political initiatives than Oracle? https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizat...

That ignores individual donors. I assure you that execs and investors in oracle make up the difference.
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