I'm guessing this has something to do with how the employees were trying to unionize. RIP Moog, good luck to those employees
Moog was actually employee-owned.
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#92For a short time Moog curated Moogfest in Asheville and later Raleigh. It was an amazing blend of music, technology, talks, culture, etc. I think it ran into some trouble towards the end of it's run. I ended up going once (solo) after a friend had to bail out last minute. It was one of the most fun and enriching music festivals I've ever attended. I can't imagine it coming back after this news. If anyone knows of anything similar that still exists I'd love to know about it.
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> laying out the knobs in similar order? I mean, it's File-Edit-View and Cut-Copy-Paste, and laid out like the 6 strings of a guitar... This is a bit condescending. There’s much more nuance, variation, experimentation in synthesizer interfaces then what your comment suggests.
Of course there's variation, but most analog-style synthesizers still use the same basic oscillator waveforms (sawtooth, sine, triangle, square), some ADSR envelope variant and some LFO's.
That doesn't make them feel or look the same.
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I don't think hardware analogy synthesizers are going anywhere anytime soon. Moog is probably facing a lot of competition though, and they aren't very active in the Eurorack modular space where a lot of the interesting new stuff is happening. (In particular, a lot of their popular synths, including recently released ones, are being cloned by Behringer.) It would be interesting to know if they were doing great but sol…
I suspect Moog saturated their own market. There are only so many people who want to pay $5000 for a new Minimoog, and most of them already had a reissue. Even fewer who want to pay $10k for an analog poly with mixed reviews and software issues. We'll see what happens next. Given IM's history I would guess the Moog brand will be stuck on some generic mediocre products, and most of the US workers will be let go. But I…
You have to be passionate about the specific sounds a synth offers to buy any synth at a $5k or $10k price tag. The OB-X8 from Sequential sounds fantastic but it still only gives you the palette of an analog polysynth for $5k. You have to be passionate about the Oberheim sound in order to pay that kind of money. Same with Moog or Gibson, you need some kind of passion for the brand in order to spend the money that they’re asking.
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They absolutely have invested in R&D. The clones are not trivial component-for-component copies. A lot of old parts aren't available any more and the circuits have to be rebuilt around what's available today. They've added MIDI and USB features. They built their own chip division to resurrect the chips of the 80s. They built products like the DeepMind which is Juno-ish but not really a clone. What they did do was nuk…
That is a blatant distortion of the truth. They have invested Nothing in New Designs, nothing For The Future, and I find your defense of Behringer utterly disingenuous. Legacy: what legacy of designs, ORIGINAL DESIGNS, has Behringer left us? R&D was not intended to signify honing a rip-off design, but indicates an original design. Name me ONE original Behringer product.
This is a misuse of the word “disingenuous”. “Disingenuous” is when someone pretends to be stupid, and there’s no valid reason to use that word here. “Disingenuous” is probably the most cliché and tired way to add unnecessary vitriol to a comment on HN.
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#96It’s sad how the entire music industry of actual innovators gets scooped up by conglomerates like InMusic. What is worse, however, is the blatant rip-off business plan of Behringer. They went so far as to buy the chip company CoolAudio to build clones of the Curtis CEM3340 oscillator chip featured in all these 80’s polysynths. Wanna know why Behringers product line exclusively features other peoples designs that have…
I, for one, am very happy that Behringer is making $350 devilfish 303s despite what that nice fellow in Australia thinks about it. He wasn't going to get my money anyway.
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#98For a short time Moog curated Moogfest in Asheville and later Raleigh. It was an amazing blend of music, technology, talks, culture, etc. I think it ran into some trouble towards the end of it's run. I ended up going once (solo) after a friend had to bail out last minute. It was one of the most fun and enriching music festivals I've ever attended. I can't imagine it coming back after this news. If anyone knows of any…
I went to one of those in 2016, the first one they had when they moved it to Raleigh (it was actually in downtown Durham). I loved it and sad that it's no longer happening. I saw some amazing acts, including Gary Numan doing a 3 night performance where each night he performed one of his first 3 albums (I only saw one of them)
Here's some more info about the 2016 lineup https://www.brooklynvegan.com/moogfest-announ/
There is a moogfest subreddit and it seemed like I went to a good one because the following ones weren't as well organized. But of course it's reddit and only hearing from a select few people
https://www.reddit.com/r/moogfest/comments/t3egho/is_moogfes...
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#99Re: Moog sells its business to InMusic
#100It’s sad how the entire music industry of actual innovators gets scooped up by conglomerates like InMusic. What is worse, however, is the blatant rip-off business plan of Behringer. They went so far as to buy the chip company CoolAudio to build clones of the Curtis CEM3340 oscillator chip featured in all these 80’s polysynths. Wanna know why Behringers product line exclusively features other peoples designs that have…
I completely agree with you, but how is that not capitalism?
Seems like capitalism at work to me. Is the implication capitalism is somehow intrinsically ethical? That’s a laugh.