Really don’t like the idea that we will act as interfaces for the AI, I honestly believe it will only many the majority of people lazier and dumber. I’m also incredibly shocked that no one is talking about AI as a friend/companion, that has to not be good for you in the long run. Humans need real human connection, AI is too artificial for that (duh). Having AI friends will be equivalent to consuming fast food instead…
Good comparison. An AI companion will never talk back or tell you that you're wrong. Kind of similar in my mind to how fast food restaurants won't serve you anything that's too "hard to swallow".
Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’
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Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’
#82We may not be ready but we may as well get ready. I would strongly prefer to work with skeptical people again. Skeptics can be convinced, they just need evidence. Although I am genuinely intrigued by AI running out of things to ingest, and moving onto AI generated content. Is the snake starting to eat its tail?
But that's sort of the point, isn't it? It's generous even to call "skeptics" a group. There are just "people who have skepticism about X," many of whom have skepticism for wildly different reasons — many of them bad reasons — and therefore are not convinced by good evidence . AI will produce whatever evidence a person needs in order to shore up their own "skeptical" beliefs. Same problem as social media, where findi…
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#83The rapid development of AI could lead to people generally being frightened away from digital products. In my own social environment, I see more and more people who used to be very enthusiastic about computers turning away to more analog entertainment and work. Blindly developing technology only as part of the "power play" without solving real problems is no longer justifiable. AI is starting to create significantly…
The sheer audacity to claim that 'fossil fuel industry' has "created significantly more problems than it has actually solved" If you leave the SF bubble for a split second, and think about the foundations of modern industry, you would realize fossil fuels have created tectonic value for society, that's why transitioning away is so so hard. All the 'real problems', like housing costs, medical costs, education costs, o…
One of the problems of modern discourse is that an idea or meme takes hold and has a life of itself, it becomes the center of attraction without refence past history, past events, etc.
I'm not a climate change denier nor do I disagree that using fossil fuels has huge environmental consequences but no rational person could deny that we owe our whole modern life to fossil fuels. The Industrial Revolution absolutely depended on coal, it has been the lifeblood of modern society for at least 300 years. It is simply unimaginable to envisage modern life without its existence.
Moreover, what's lost in this debate is that coal is not just a source of energy, it is also the source of a many other useful materials. When I was learning about this decades ago we were taught that coal was the source of so many useful products that we round that number off to '1000' to signal its importance.
In fact, coal provides many more than a 1000 useful products, the pharmaceutical couldn't do without it. The previous poster should contemplate the fact that even common old aspirin comes from coal—in fact many pharmaceutical texts place aspirin in a class of drugs known as the coal-tar antipyretics.
Wild assertions of this type happen when we stop teaching history, how modern society came about and so on. A dose of philosophical reasoning and logic ought to be taught as well, that way reason may hold back many from uttering and spreading crap.
Re: Humans aren’t mentally ready for an AI-saturated ‘post-truth world’
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
AI has a good niche as confidante for people with serious issues and no close friend/therapist to approach about them. This is unfortunately a large niche. And if it displaces public social media... That is a net gain. But yeah, overall the fast food analogy is a fitting one.
I wonder if AI could help a user bootstrap into real human sociability.
A multi-modal AI can easily critique your body language, voice tonality, choice of words, etc, and give you tips on how to be more charismatic.
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Why wouldn't the books be AI-generated too?
You are right. That could happen too. I guess I was assuming there would still be editors and staff, some infrastructure that checks the contents of a book before printing. But guess that could go out the window too. Of course that could be what happens. An entire new industry of "Certifications", companies that "Verify" media.
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I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI so…
Whew it's satire. Whew. I've literally seen posts on the internet that read like this sans the satire.
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I already live in it. Humans have been lying this entire time, computers lying as well isn't a big difference.
I would call that attitude: pre-adult. It's drawing on false analogies to make an edgy point. It's not about "computers lying" (they've been lying since the first program), but on widespread counterfactual information, and the disappearance of the ability to distinguish between true and fabricated evidence. That's not something you already live in, unless you're psychotic.
As a single point to illustrate what im talking about, a lot of people who say things like you have here also took the Steele dossier hook line and sinker. Those same people refused to look at the DNC's emails, or Clinton's emails or Hunter's emails calling those disinformation. I think it's time to stop pretending peoples politics have much to do about evidence.
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#88I don't think we're mentally ready for social media, even. What something like Twitter can inflict on a person when it goes wrong is absolutely unprecedented, and we still haven't adapted to it. Think that for instance going to the cinema, watching a movie, walking out and venting to a friend "Boy, this one sucked. $ACTOR_NAME did a really bad job with this one" is a perfectly normal thing to do. But move that to Twi…
There is a reason why successful actors and personalities have a PR agency. If you become an "influencer" or just the focal point of the lastest discussion, you don't have that. It might work, but there is a reason why such agencies exist. They should not, but some people are quite enthusiastic.
We would have been far more ready if people actually adhered to the advice to share personal information rather defensively. But the reward of attention was probably too large.
I don't even believe mobs are a problem. Some opinions on topics will always converge. There just needs to be a way to escape them. In most cases there are trivial ones. It would be a huge loss if we restrict the net because some people wanted attention and got not so nice feedback.
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#89Truth has never been that important. Humans spent thousands of years thinking a giant man living on the mountain threw lightning bolts from the sky, or the spirits of their ancestors watch everything they do, or fairies and gremlins and whatnot cause mischief. They still managed.
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#90I am not scared for AI overflowing the news sites with bullshit. We already have a fire hydrant worth of bullshit content produced for consumption. Lies and fakes have coexisted with humans forever. People did rumours, then we had books, press, radio, television, and now the Internet. "But it's easier to produce lies/deepfakes today" -- true. However, the absolute cost of producing a lie per consumer already was negl…
And now with LLMs even the cost of producing lies has plummeted, too.
No matter how bad you think the past was, this problem just got worse.