Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 10:04 AM UTC

crubier wrote: post #167

ohgodplsno wrote: post #163

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Slack is currently eating 600MB of my RAM, for something I check maybe once an hour. You know what I'd like to use my RAM for instead ? Gradle. kotlinc. intellij. Things that I actually use to do my work, and not a bad IRC that wants to make me pay for the privilege of seeing old messages. Electron is a demonstration of laziness and a living proof that software companies do not give a single shit about their users an…

> a living proof that software companies do not give a single shit about their users and just want to push more crap, for cheaper, all the time. Exact opposite, to me Electron is the living proof that software companies correctly care a lot about building a product people want, and correctly realize that the large majority of people correctly do not care that one of their top productivity app uses $1 worth of RAM, bu…

Post by crubier » Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

radicalbyte wrote: post #168

crubier wrote: post #167

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> a living proof that software companies do not give a single shit about their users and just want to push more crap, for cheaper, all the time. Exact opposite, to me Electron is the living proof that software companies correctly care a lot about building a product people want, and correctly realize that the large majority of people correctly do not care that one of their top productivity app uses $1 worth of RAM, bu…

There are a lot of Apple users here and I'm pretty sure that Apple charge $200 for that $1 worth of RAM ;-)

Post by ezst » Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 10:31 AM UTC

mike_hearn wrote: post #158

ezst wrote: post #154

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Not too surprised, but aren't you incidentally also bundling chrome/WebKit on top of that by depending on WebView?

JavaFX supports a WebKit based WebView widget, but it's optional. If you don't use it it's not bundled. If you do then you pay the cost of including the WebKit build which is ~80mb. In practice the need for WebKit is going down over time. For basic rich text you can render Markdown to JavaFX nodes directly, for more advanced stuff you could transform [X]HTML to FXML, you don't need it for video or audio, there's a na…

Post by meepmorp » Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 10:34 AM UTC

prmoustache wrote: post #151

x0x0 wrote: post #135

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The massive advantage of Electron is write once -- with some extra overhead, perhaps 40% effort -- and you can ship the same app to web, mac, windows, ios, android, and linux.

I'd like to be explained why MS teams electron app is so different to the web version then.

Post by nottorp » Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 10:59 AM UTC

graftak wrote: post #196

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Just because you can put a link to a site on your desktop and make it run in its own window (and maybe process) it will make the "app" less bloated?

Yes because electron comes with its own distinct instance of chrome (usually an outdated version) for each individual app, introducing massive overhead versus running on the OS provided browser engine.