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Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Not to mention spam. There's lots of bots posting just avalanches of garbage upvoted by click farms. It's like these people are coming in driving cars and Reddit management is offering a sturdy pair of walking shoes to try to keep up with them.

Reddit found the one real solution for dealing with spam (human workers) for FREE and pissed it down the drain.

Except it wasn't actually free, that's the entire issue..

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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> by trying to damage the company A lot of the voices and mods that are most prominent are saying that it is Spez that is actively damaging the company. Christian, Apollo's author, gives a good write up of the recent developments: https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_t... One thing missing from this is that obviously reddit is seeing OpenAI and others training AIs on their data and taking the wr…

I presume these people have never had a job, where there just is someone else who decides what they are going to do and how they are going to do it. If they did they would see they signed up for a job but with no pay.

The community sees ‘the damage Elon has done to the community’. Corporate sees a company bleeding money being turned around. Regardless if it’s going to work out, investors aren’t going to be happy if their investments have turned into a great community and a monetary loss. It’s not a charity. So they appreciate someone coming in and putting a stop to the charity work and trying to start making money.

That’s why the people that matter, the people with a lot of money, put literal billions of dollars on the line so Musk could buy Twitter. While the people that don’t really matter, the people that block ads, the people that don’t pay, the people that don’t want to play along with the plan to make money, are ignored.

Money talks, bs walks.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.

Then clearly the only remaining option is to leave. The company doesn’t want them to keep working for free on the old terms, only on the new terms.

We’ll see if they are so irreplaceable as they claim.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #155

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I was banned at r/beer because I critize Bud Light marketing, also the mod told me he did not like my Reddit Avatar.

>ciriticize bud light marketing Lol Yeah, I'm sure THAT'S what you were banned for. What particular aspect of their marketing did you take issue with? Maybe you let slip some of your obvious-to-everyone prejudice in your "criticism".

To be fair, their advertising was objectively bad. As can be seen by the results.

And I doubt that mulvany was the issue. People don’t want politics in their beer. I guarantee you that both a pro-choice and an anti-abortion marketing campaign would have negative effects on their sales.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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The alternatives are crap right now and they might move on but unless the masses jump onto Lemmy or Mastodon, Reddit will continue to dominate. I tried those two other sites and they are just terrible.

Do you really want an alternative? Everybody is different, but for me, the return on my time spent there was way too low. Rarely when I closed the window did I feel good about how I spent the previous 20-30 minutes. And I say that as someone with a very low bar for when time is well spent. Like John Lennon, I believe that time you enjoy wasting isn’t wasted. Reddit wasn’t clearing that bar for me. It felt like a slot…

I really wish we could go back to forums again. The amount of knowledge lost to discord and mass account deletion is insane. For example, I was fixing a superautomatic espresso recently. I ended up finding the schematics I needed on an obscure Czech forum that didn’t come up on a google search. I found that forum by clicking through three other forums that were similarly obscure and that I have not been able to locate again.

If the information located within had been posted on discord, it would have been lost. Forums with their own file hosting are often the last documentation we have of something, as file hosters die off.

Ever noticed how google will say 600k results but only show you 1.5 pages? The mass knowledge of the internet is being lost.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #155

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>ciriticize bud light marketing Lol Yeah, I'm sure THAT'S what you were banned for. What particular aspect of their marketing did you take issue with? Maybe you let slip some of your obvious-to-everyone prejudice in your "criticism".

To be fair, their advertising was objectively bad. As can be seen by the results. And I doubt that mulvany was the issue. People don’t want politics in their beer. I guarantee you that both a pro-choice and an anti-abortion marketing campaign would have negative effects on their sales.

Are the results due to the "quality" of the advertising or the campaign of rabid hate directed towards the lgbt that one of our two parties is concertedly fostering??

>both a pro-choice and an anti-abortion marketing campaign would have negative effects on their sales

Ok? I wasn't commenting on the efficacy of various political themed advertising campaigns, I was challenging the notion that benign lamentation of advertisement quality was what got him banned.

If I had to put money on it I'd put a 3-4 digit sum on what that guy actually got banned for. And it rhymes with ransphobia. Anyone who cares that much about an ad only cares about that ad for one reason. And I'd bet his phobia leaked out in his totally benign criticisms.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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I don't think ownership is the right descriptor for how most mods feel about "their" subreddit. I would hazard a guess that most mods feel more like stakeholders, having already done a large amount of unpaid labour should entitle them to have some say over the future direction of that subreddit.

So because they did things voluntarily they are owed something? You describe the very mentality that is persistent among all corrosive human efforts that go by many different labels, but all share a common element of imposing demands through violation, i.e., “we freely agree on one thing, now you demand another under threat of violence.”

The status quo is if you don’t moderate for a month somebody can challenge you as moderator and take over. People who took over communities in this way, and now cannot be displaced because of their activity, literally are moderators because they did something voluntarily.

That’s just on the admin level, mod to mod, generally users who are active and willing to do the work are more likely to be promoted to mod and less likely to be kicked from the mods.

But in short, yes your willingness to do unpaid labor is absolutely part of what entitles you to be a mod. It’s not always sufficient but it’s often required.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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I don't even understand why they continue to work from free for people that do not even have the beginning of a care for them

When I actively moderated Reddit I was long term unemployed and considered it community service (aware that Reddit is privately owned) and tried to organize information (faq/sticky/tags/sidebar/etc) and moderate to create something useful and helpful to the general public.

Looking back though, it’s odd to me how much I could personally benefit myself at this point if I abused moderation powers for self-promotion because of the sheer reach that Reddit has and the extraordinary powers Mods have. But that was never the intention.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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You could not be more wrong. The work is mostly invisible to end users.

Not really. Sort by new and take a look yourself. Nonsense posts get downvoted before a moderator has to do anything. People who sort by top or whatever never see it.

Posts get filtered by automod rules and anti-spam before they hit the new queue. So this isn’t really sound logic.

The general point you are making IS correct though, upvotes/downvotes are the primary moderation mechanism on Reddit. Moderators are the second layer of moderation, and admins are the third. In my experience the users did an absolute majority of the moderation work except on weird heavily modded communities.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Not really. Sort by new and take a look yourself. Nonsense posts get downvoted before a moderator has to do anything. People who sort by top or whatever never see it.

>Sort by new and take a look yourself. ignoring the autoamted tools mods created, distribtued, and customized themselves to capture certain keywords or websites before it even hit /new >People who sort by top or whatever never see it. nope, just low effort memes, reposts, and unhinged rants,depending on the community. Or just porn. If mods have rules against those, then there's your moderator work right there. Congra…

I’ve never understood moderators who are big enough busy bodies to spend their lives removing memes that they dislike so much that they proceed to view every single one submitted to a subreddit so they can remove them.
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