How does it boot? Or is RISC-V going to follow the same problems as the ARM SBC system where each board has an obscure and unique boot process meaning images need to be carefully pre-built with who knows what installed for each board.
Milk-V Mars: RISC-V credit card size SBC
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#33there are so many SBCs these days. if you use them for hobby projects, many of them are fine. if you ever want to convert your project to something commercial, I would still consider raspberry pi and beaglebone instead based on software maturity and community support and their ecosystem at large. I really like NXP's i.MX6/8/9 chips, I wish there are some i.MX SBCs as popular as RPi and Beagles, for both hobby and com…
> I wish there are some i.MX SBC You can buy a Toradex, Variscite or PHYTEC module and pop a binary distro like Debian in there very easily. Disclosure: I work for one of the companies above.
RPi did the right way in my opinion: its (cheap) SBC format gains attention widely, then it started to sell its own SOM in large volumes.
Re: Milk-V Mars: RISC-V credit card size SBC
#34there are so many SBCs these days. if you use them for hobby projects, many of them are fine. if you ever want to convert your project to something commercial, I would still consider raspberry pi and beaglebone instead based on software maturity and community support and their ecosystem at large. I really like NXP's i.MX6/8/9 chips, I wish there are some i.MX SBCs as popular as RPi and Beagles, for both hobby and com…
I would tend to agree, but the supply limitations of the Pis has made me re-think that. I've heard with commercial agreements you can sometimes get Pis easier, but for launching a new product I'd be terrified that my growth would be hampered/limited by availability of the Pi
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would tend to agree, but the supply limitations of the Pis has made me re-think that. I've heard with commercial agreements you can sometimes get Pis easier, but for launching a new product I'd be terrified that my growth would be hampered/limited by availability of the Pi
I have had zero problems getting pis for the past 3 years, but we generally pre-buy supply in bulk (500+)
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
>if you ever want to convert your project to something commercial Surely at that point you would just treat the SBC as a reference design and fab your own boards?
A lot of commercial projects based on SBCs are relatively niche. It's very common to see things like lighting controllers, hobbyist stuff, etc, that's in the run size of 500 at the very most, basically be a raspberry pi with a custom hat in a custom plastic case. That can sustain a medium sized business. Designing and fabbing your own boards doesn't always make sense until you're on a version 2, or 3.
I read somewhere if you're building more than 10,000 devices, it's better to design the whole PCB board on your own. Before that volume, using SOM modules for time to market could be more reasonable.
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#39All SBCs are useless to me... How am I supposed to encode vp8 in real time with them?
How am I supposed to fit one in my pocket?
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#40How does it boot? Or is RISC-V going to follow the same problems as the ARM SBC system where each board has an obscure and unique boot process meaning images need to be carefully pre-built with who knows what installed for each board.