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Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by cheeseblubber »

palata wrote: post #20

> One of the main core differences with Tauri is that it uses a Webview instead of using chromium like in Electron. This means that every desktop application doesn’t have to ship with chromium and can rely on the native browser’s webviews. The downside here is that because it is using Webview you have to deal with different quirks of different operating systems. ElectronJS is a cross-platform framework. It is bloated…

I guess we aren't aware of any Electron alternatives built with JVM. We started out as a web app so we need something that would bundle web based technology. Besides electron Tauri seemed like it was the next best bet.

Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by bojo »

palata wrote: post #20

> One of the main core differences with Tauri is that it uses a Webview instead of using chromium like in Electron. This means that every desktop application doesn’t have to ship with chromium and can rely on the native browser’s webviews. The downside here is that because it is using Webview you have to deal with different quirks of different operating systems. ElectronJS is a cross-platform framework. It is bloated…

Chromium or Tauri, you are still building platform specific binaries either way.

Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by littlestymaar »

palata wrote: post #20

> One of the main core differences with Tauri is that it uses a Webview instead of using chromium like in Electron. This means that every desktop application doesn’t have to ship with chromium and can rely on the native browser’s webviews. The downside here is that because it is using Webview you have to deal with different quirks of different operating systems. ElectronJS is a cross-platform framework. It is bloated…

> why not going for a JVM-based technology? That's cross-platform, and it doesn't require a web browser / webview to show text.

Because then you require the user to install a JVM?

Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by bojo »

sedatk wrote: post #14

> Tauri is an open-source electron alternative that is built in Rust. I'm not familiar with Electron development, but isn't the code mostly JavaScript in that case? Does Rust have a meaningful contribution to the performance and the safety of the codebase here? I feel like Rust part would be "spin up the WebView". There is no code in the repository, so I couldn't check that out myself.

I'm not sure about this project specifically, but Tauri let's you farm all of your business logic out to the Rust side with straightforward function calls and keep the web view a presentation layer.

Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by bastawhiz »

palata wrote: post #20

> One of the main core differences with Tauri is that it uses a Webview instead of using chromium like in Electron. This means that every desktop application doesn’t have to ship with chromium and can rely on the native browser’s webviews. The downside here is that because it is using Webview you have to deal with different quirks of different operating systems. ElectronJS is a cross-platform framework. It is bloated…

> why not going for a JVM-based technology?

Not to pick on the JVM, but does anyone actually build new desktop software for the JVM that's meant to be downloaded and installed by mainstream consumers? Qt and other frameworks work pretty well (with their own flaws) but I'd simply never even consider the JVM as a viable option for desktop software. The last JVM app I installed was probably Minecraft in 2012.

Re: Building a Slack/Discord alternative with Tauri/Rust

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Post by JoshTriplett »

palata wrote: post #20

> One of the main core differences with Tauri is that it uses a Webview instead of using chromium like in Electron. This means that every desktop application doesn’t have to ship with chromium and can rely on the native browser’s webviews. The downside here is that because it is using Webview you have to deal with different quirks of different operating systems. ElectronJS is a cross-platform framework. It is bloated…

If you offer developers the choice of either embedding a whole web browser and not dealing with platform differences, or not embedding a whole web browser and dealing with differences between the now-evergreen browser engines on each major platform, many may pick the latter to be more user-friendly. I certainly would.
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