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Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #27

This was posted in 8 June. With big name brokers in the US making a move into the crypto market today, is it fair to say this guy has no idea what he is talking about? + https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-20/crypto-ex...

EDX is non-custodial and open ONLY to institutional investors.

The SEC's enforcement on Crypto Platforms is specifically aimed at separating the Broker Function from Exchanges.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #25
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, is he wrong? Genuinely the only other application I’ve seen which seems plausible is for use in places like Venezuela where the official currency is worthless.

He's not entirely correct. Crime is a major application but by far the largest use case for crypto is "investing" (gambling) in crypto.

The number one facilitator of crime/gambling is USD, might want to check your facts.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#33
post #15

John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

I mean, is he wrong? Genuinely the only other application I’ve seen which seems plausible is for use in places like Venezuela where the official currency is worthless.

Other uses include local crimes and national crimes. They don't have to be global...

Oh, and gambling/speculating of course.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#34

John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

This isn't bias, its truth. Sometimes, when one is entrenched, it is difficult to see the difference.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#35
post #14

It's strange to me how people keep comparing cryptocurrencies to equity, but don't compare them to their closest counterpart - fiat currencies. Are fiat currencies treated like securities? No. Are there "best execution requirements" when I exchange my USD for EUR. No. Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

You invented and answered your own false premise. You set it up by proclaiming fiat the closest counterpart, and then proclaimed that fiat isn't treated like a security. You're the one saying it's closest to fiat, not the regulators. The regulators consider it to be more like an asset class and not fiat money like USD. They have been very clear about that.

> Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

There is in fact a considerable regulatory system in place as it pertains to exchanging currency, currency laws, and so on.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#36
post #4

Turns out the answer to "How is this not a regulated security?" is "It is."

Turns out that he isn't attacking the mechanics or underlying offerings (security vs commodity) as you seem to imply.

He does not like the lack of regulation around the (decentralized, unregulated) distribution and prefers the broker-dealers regulation and clearinghouse oversight.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#37
post #25
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, is he wrong? Genuinely the only other application I’ve seen which seems plausible is for use in places like Venezuela where the official currency is worthless.

He's not entirely correct. Crime is a major application but by far the largest use case for crypto is "investing" (gambling) in crypto.

For some people crypto is the only way to keep their wealth away from the hands of faulty and corrupt governments.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#38
post #16
post #14

It's strange to me how people keep comparing cryptocurrencies to equity, but don't compare them to their closest counterpart - fiat currencies. Are fiat currencies treated like securities? No. Are there "best execution requirements" when I exchange my USD for EUR. No. Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

People cannot create fiat currencies out of thin air. When done it's a crime (currency forgery).

It's a crime if you or I do it. It's a blessing of quantitative easing when the rulers - our lords and saviors - do it.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#39

John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

Negative comments don't indicate bias. There are many alternative explanations. If I say 'Charles Manson murdered several people', that doesn't indicate bias. If I say it's raining, that's not bias against the weather.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

#40

John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

Crypto has been around over a decade now and transactions for illegal goods and services is the only use for it that ever got traction.
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