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Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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Finbold is not a reliable news source / site. Even r/cryptocurrency flags finbold as unreliable.

Finbold's reliability doesn't matter much here since this is just a shell article about a tweet https://twitter.com/johnreedstark/status/1666780985189433347

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #8

Url changed from https://finbold.com/former-us-sec-attorney-get-out-of-crypto... , which points to this. Submitters: " Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter. " - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

This is irrelevant for the thread at hand but I submitted something recently from the original source. The problem was that it's a banned domain on HN.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040

"The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes."

The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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It's strange to me how people keep comparing cryptocurrencies to equity, but don't compare them to their closest counterpart - fiat currencies.

Are fiat currencies treated like securities? No. Are there "best execution requirements" when I exchange my USD for EUR. No. Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

I mean, is he wrong? Genuinely the only other application I’ve seen which seems plausible is for use in places like Venezuela where the official currency is worthless.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #14

It's strange to me how people keep comparing cryptocurrencies to equity, but don't compare them to their closest counterpart - fiat currencies. Are fiat currencies treated like securities? No. Are there "best execution requirements" when I exchange my USD for EUR. No. Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

People cannot create fiat currencies out of thin air. When done it's a crime (currency forgery).

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #15

John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

I mean, is he wrong? Genuinely the only other application I’ve seen which seems plausible is for use in places like Venezuela where the official currency is worthless.

Yep, the only use cases for decentralized, programmable monetary systems are criminal. /s

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #6

If you don't hold your own keys privately and offline then you don't really own any crypto. At best you own a share in a dicey exchange that may go under at any time (due to regulation, fraud or whatever else).

An exchange is basically a bank without the regulations and consumer protections of real banks. It also defeats the purpose of crypto. It's the worst of both worlds.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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John Reed Stark is their expert? https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1670457201943511040 "The only killer app for crypto that seems tangible is its excellent use to orchestrate global crimes." The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

> The bias is abundant, it's well known this guy hates crypto.

Does that make him wrong? Or somehow not a reliable commentator on the thinking at the SEC (which is what the actual article is about), given his having worked there? Bias could be an issue if he were speaking about crypto per se, but this is about the SEC.

Re: Former US SEC attorney: 'Get out of crypto platforms now'

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post #14

It's strange to me how people keep comparing cryptocurrencies to equity, but don't compare them to their closest counterpart - fiat currencies. Are fiat currencies treated like securities? No. Are there "best execution requirements" when I exchange my USD for EUR. No. Did somebody have to register the Brazilian Real with the SEC for it to be exchangeable in the US? No.

Fiat currencies are backed by the issuing government, who in turn follows globally agreed upon regulations.

This is why a cryptoCURRENCY is treated as a security.

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