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Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by dragontamer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #76
dragontamer wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can agree on that too. Fediverse, and Lemmy in particular, has "good bones" on it. But the software desperately needs to fix a bunch of bugs. They weren't quite ready for #RedditBlackout, but who would be? I'm thinking more from the perspective of kbin vs Lemmy. I don't think anyone's noted kbin bugs. kbin.social grew to over 35k+ users this past weekend, so they're also having a substantial boost from #RedditBlack…

Are you finding one community more pragmatic than the other? The fundamental issue I found with Lemmy was the refusal to accept the onboarding process as being off putting to reasonable people I would want to interact with in an online community.

I haven't played with kbin.social yet. Most of my interactions with them have been through Lemmy (and noticing that users/communities are actually from kbin.social)

I feel like Beehaw.org is quite pragmatic. By cutting off the #RedditBlackout users, they've kept their community feel and the focus on community building. I dunno if I want to be part of Beehaw.org, but I support their decisions and can see the long-term benefits of their way of thinking.

Lemmy.world obviously is trying to capture #RedditBlackout traffic, and that's fine too. This has its downsides, the bulk of which is that 90%ish of the discussion on Lemmy.world is all around Reddit and/or Lemmy, as opposed to more pragmatic issues.

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The happy medium I've found is to look for specific communities, no matter where they are. https://programming.dev/c/programming is small but looks like it has the right mindset. https://mtgzone.com/c/mtg also looks to have the right mindset, by creating a Magic-the-gathering focused group.

The issue in the near term is human-coordination. People don't know which !communities or servers host the discussions they want yet. That's fine, people will self-organize one way or the other.

EDIT: Of course, https://Lemmy.world can work. But most users are obviously here for lower-effort experimentation rather than community building. The https://lemmy.world/c/android community seems to be taking off though and is on the right track.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

balder1991 wrote: post #66
bee_rider wrote: post #50

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Reddit is still in the process of making bad moves I think; unless I missed something and they announced a reversal of the API pricing changes? Lemmy should grow at a sustainable pace. The population boom from the blackouts is transient. As the moderators on Reddit get less enthusiastic about doing free work for a company that clearly doesn’t like them and will happily take away their tools, some will give up. The co…

I feel like the population boom was enough to enable a few communities to settle in Lemmy and now they’ll grow more organically. So far I’m enjoying the quality of posts there, it’s definitely a situation where quality over quantity makes sense.

honestly strikes me as a HN sorta thing where there is a small group of motivated and technically savvy types. noise-to-signal ratio is pretty good, and overt or covert 'hailcoporate' sorta stuff is not especially common.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by ekanes »

taywrobel wrote: post #32
garrettjoecox wrote: post #15

A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?

I don’t think this is off topic, because this is a common theme across all of Lemmy. Not necessarily no caching, but abysmal performance across the board. As much as I want the project to succeed it’s unusable currently, and with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed. The stats over the last month are impressive (if you can ge…

> with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed

Perhaps, but on June 30th Apollo (most likely) goes dark. So there may be another group of folks checking it out.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by technothrasher »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #35
bogwog wrote: post #12

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It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.

Exactly. To me, all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction. 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap, I would be happy if it stayed on Reddit or went somewhere else entirely. All I want to know is whether Lemmy can reach a critical mass where there is enough going on there that it's worth visiting.

> 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap

And most people would likely agree with you, however they'll have labelled a different 90% as the crap part. It's the bleed-over between those different parts that makes Reddit's huge user population effective at keeping up momentum even in smaller backwater subreddits. (e.g. "I'm already here reading r/funny, so I happen to see when occasional new stuff gets posted on r/obscurethingnobodycaresaboutbutme too")

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by Kye »

rkangel wrote: post #58
bogwog wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.

Yes. I spent last week hoping that everyone from Reddit moves to Lemmy, but I realised that I don't need Reddit to die, I just need Lemmy to be successful enough . There is a critical mass of people needed to sustain a set of useful sublemmys, but that number is a tiny fraction of Reddit.

That's the neat thing about federation. A lot of these people are coming from the million plus users of Mastodon who didn't need to make a new account to use Lemmy.

https://the-federation.info/

The active user count isn't up that much. It's mostly people finding out about Lemmy or remembering it exists. They're building the communities that will be there when the Reddit API changes finally go into effect. It's actually better that it happen this way so most people's first impression coming from Reddit is a good one.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by Nexxxeh »

accrual wrote: post #41
Paul-Craft wrote: post #4

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I'm blanking out my 10 year old account (after requesting my data dump) sometime around the first if they don't do something to reverse course.

I was curious to see HN's view on removing Reddit account data. I have a couple old accounts (>12 years) with many thousands of comments. My personal perspective is that deleting all these comments, some of which contain technical help, advice, solutions, etc., would really be a net-negative for everyone. I understand wanting to send a message to Reddit leadership, but in reality the blip is so small as to probably n…

I've been helped by old posts from others on Reddit and elsewhere. It seems like a dick move to delete mine.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by nologic01 »

Keep in mind this is not "lemmy vs reddit". Browsing through this index [1] you see moderators and users migrate also to platforms like kbin, discord, discourse and matrix

I didn't even know about kbin [2] but it seems like another solid fediverse presence. This multiplicity of platforms (ruby, php, rust, python, go, elixir, you name it) that all adhere to a protocol is intrinsic to this "movement" [3] and it is what makes it vaguely... inspiring. Echoes of an earlier, more optimistic time.

[1] https://sub.rehab/

[2] https://kbin.pub/en

[3] https://fedidb.org/software

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by burnished »

dragontamer wrote: post #67
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.

Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup proce…

I don't know that I'd call it kafka-esque but I think they make a good point about friction - the signup process also includes learning about this new thing, which is going to throw people.

Especially, I think, because there is a gulf between what the service intends to be and what people want it to be.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by cwkoss »

seanalltogether wrote: post #18

I keep giving lemmy a try and I couldn't figure out what was bugging so much about browsing it. I finally realized I'm only seeing about 7 posts per window on lemmy as opposed to 12 on reddit. And now I'm realizing the content box is only 800px wide so comments feel really constrained. This seems like a weird style choice?

With users growing 6x in a week, I imagine we'll start seeing a proliferation of clients in the coming months.

Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

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Post by gnulinux »

speg wrote: post #21

I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. This is a bad bug, but there are plenty other small things. Like why is “Join Lemmy” link still displayed when I’m logged in? Feels like unbaked software to me. That’s on top of all the multiple federated instances you need to wrap your head around. I’m not sure this can compete :(

The reality in 2023 is all software is unbaked software. All software is buggy, frustrating, and almost-broken to the point of almost-unusable. There is simply nothing else, and we all navigate through this dystopic universe by finding software that are tolerably frustrating for each of us. The threshold is different for everyone. Reddit is buggy as hell and experiences downtime most weeks. I'm sure Lemmy has bugs too, but it's all about whether the trade-off makes sense for a critical mass of people. We will see.
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