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I give up on free software phones (2019)

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Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#31

Any updates on the situation in 2023?

I use CalyxOS on a Pixel 6a and a LineageOS on a OnePlus 6. No micro G on any of them. Honestly, I have absolutely no issues with CalyxOS and I use mainstream apps like: UK Banking (Starling and HSBC), Whatsapp, Telegram, MyFitnessPal, some airlines and local bus apps...

I guess your mileage might vary. If you're keen on a particular app and you can't make it work, that's a frustration. So far I haven't found any reason to come back to a standard OS, and I appreciate my phone not sending constant signals to Apple or Google to the tune of hundreds per day.

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I've read that Google is not allowed put iMessage-like features into the stock messaging app because it would run afoul of antitrust. Ironically, Apple can do this because they own everything.

This is silly and false. Google's default android Messaging app in the US on all carriers is Google Messages and it uses RCS to do exactly what you are saying they can't do.

Have you ever booted AOSP on a device or VM? There is a messaging app that is part of AOSP that is not Google Messages

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#33
Someone should do a Linux phone that scales way back:

1. you can dial phone numbers somehow

2. you can talk on the phone

3. you can hear the person on the other line

4. the cell reception on the phone is decent quality

5. antenna is properly placed for very good reception

6. basic SMS works, all the time

7. has been extensively tested to work with a single carrier, any other carrier is no warranty

8. boot time and shutdown time are so small that it opportunistically shuts down instead of suspend

9. bonus goal: contacts, can maybe play snake

Librem 5 fails #5 and #8 (and can't really succeed at #8 unless you just drop into a command line, but then you wouldn't be able to input phone numbers). I've read some reports that #1, #2, and #3 have improved enough to be usable. On #7, they offer a bundle with a simcard for a carrier that was tested with the phone. (Doubt it was extensively tested, though.)

Of the little I've read about Pinephone and Pinephone Pro, they've had problems with #3, #6, and #7, and #8.

Overall, however, both appear as a smartphone complete with messaging and browsers. But Librem 5 can't do hardware acceleration for Firefox ESR (because the etnaviv driver doesn't have recent enough OpenGL features for webrender to work).

Pinephone is too slow to browse.

I'm not sure about Pinephone Pro (though I'd be quite surprised if it passes the Firefox webrender tests).

I'd much prefer a much more basic device that gets all the basics right, and then be pleasantly surprised that I can play mp3s on it, too.

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#34

GrapheneOS seems to be the winner these days.

Does anyone run CalyxOS, which is put together by the Calyx Institute?

I have been running CalyxOS on a Pixel 6a for 6 months and I'm very happy with it. It does everything I need and found no big annoyances so far. A minor issue is MyFitnessPal not reading barcodes but that's it.

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#37

Someone should do a Linux phone that scales way back: 1. you can dial phone numbers somehow 2. you can talk on the phone 3. you can hear the person on the other line 4. the cell reception on the phone is decent quality 5. antenna is properly placed for very good reception 6. basic SMS works, all the time 7. has been extensively tested to work with a single carrier, any other carrier is no warranty 8. boot time and sh…

Doesn't #8's opportunistic shutdown prevent it from functioning as a phone and receiving calls?

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

#39

Someone should do a Linux phone that scales way back: 1. you can dial phone numbers somehow 2. you can talk on the phone 3. you can hear the person on the other line 4. the cell reception on the phone is decent quality 5. antenna is properly placed for very good reception 6. basic SMS works, all the time 7. has been extensively tested to work with a single carrier, any other carrier is no warranty 8. boot time and sh…

Doesn't #8's opportunistic shutdown prevent it from functioning as a phone and receiving calls?

Damn, I guess I unwittingly revealed my phonecall preferences. :)

Edit: Isn't there some kind of wake-on-lan on arm chips that the Baseband OS could use?

Re: I give up on free software phones (2019)

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post #4

Please add a [2019] to the title.

[meta-commentary] HN should require a date field on all submissions and then should only show the date if the article is older than a specified time (like 1yr) (or always show the date but not in the title)

Some web pages don't have a date.
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