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Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?

Responding to and complying with DMCA take downs and making efforts to ban repeat infringers probably. Also a large enough client that their head of sales/revenue would notice if they suddenly disappeared.

You're implying that OP failed to do so, but you have no evidence of that.

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?

Not being advertised for or primarily used for copyright infringement.

In what way is uploading the music you bought to private cloud storage illegal?

Google Music asked me to upload songs and I did. Is Google really going to get sued to oblivion? I doubt it.

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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I wonder if things looked different if you had a legal team and deep pockets.

It's worrying that this concentration of wealth and such services acting as gatekeepers and essentially deciding whether you can run your business or not are not properly regulated yet.

I mean, it certainly plays into hands of big corporations, who don't want to see new players and challengers on the market.

The way things seem to be going is talented people shouldn't run their own business, but rather be employees of big corporations and help shareholders buy new private jets and so on.

In my opinion, company like Stripe shouldn't be allowed to block small business like that.

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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post #17
post #7

How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?

Not being advertised for or primarily used for copyright infringement.

Did you miss this sentence, or are you disagreeing with it?

> According to Capitol Records, Inc. v. MP3Tunes, LLC, this is absolutely OK in the eyes of the law

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

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This is sad. May be it is too late now. But you should have come to HN aka official Stripe Support Forum and ask for support first before closing it down.

It's a shame that we have to complain on social media to get an actual human response to this kind of thing. If Stripe decides to reverse their decision, I'll leave it up, but it will remain open source.

It's a shame there is no regulation protecting small business from these practices. It shouldn't be legal for a big corporation to shut down someone's business on a whim.

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

#28
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Instead of closing your service, may I recommend switching to payplug.com ? Started as a small smartup, now bought by a french main bank chain but has english documentation, very clean API, easy to get support, low fees. Easily handle refunds, payment link, payment page integrated or separate, 3D Secure, subscription/recurring payment, etc etc ... Been using them for a few companies the past year and a half, and migr…

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it

#29
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How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?

As someone who worked in the payment gateway industry, they go through underwriting. They provide all necessary documentation, a person reviews it and periodically re-reviews that information. Another item to note is that the Sponsor Bank sets most of these rules. For a product that is making <$100/mo, the risk is too great and not worth answering a ton of questions every month by the sponsor bank and/or visa/mc each time the re-review comes up.
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