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Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by thepasswordis »

kozziollek wrote: post #26

Offtopic: could people that write news titles please learn how to capitalize words? Or can we make sure that at AI will know it, when most of news are written by it? Took me 3 tries to parse the title. "Rivian Joins Forces" - is that name of an organization? - "with Tesla"... nope, that doesn't make sense. "Rivan Joins forces" (somebody to do something), syntax error got "with". "Rivan joins forces with Tesla" - yay!…

Don't be so smug. This title follows the AP style guide for headlines, which is the norm. So it's not so much that "people that write news titles" need to learn to capitalize words, it's that you need to learn how to read them.

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by pipnonsense »

kozziollek wrote: post #26

Offtopic: could people that write news titles please learn how to capitalize words? Or can we make sure that at AI will know it, when most of news are written by it? Took me 3 tries to parse the title. "Rivian Joins Forces" - is that name of an organization? - "with Tesla"... nope, that doesn't make sense. "Rivan Joins forces" (somebody to do something), syntax error got "with". "Rivan joins forces with Tesla" - yay!…

It is called Title Case and part of a lot of (American?) news organizations style guides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case

It confuses me, a non-native English speaker, a lot too. I hate it.

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by angry_moose »

kozziollek wrote: post #26

Offtopic: could people that write news titles please learn how to capitalize words? Or can we make sure that at AI will know it, when most of news are written by it? Took me 3 tries to parse the title. "Rivian Joins Forces" - is that name of an organization? - "with Tesla"... nope, that doesn't make sense. "Rivan Joins forces" (somebody to do something), syntax error got "with". "Rivan joins forces with Tesla" - yay!…

The article is titled correctly per most style guides:

Generally speaking, AP style uses title case for headlines, which means all words are capitalized except for certain short words, such as articles and short prepositions.

In AP style, headlines capitalize the first word, proper names, or proper abbreviations, verbs, pronouns, adjectives, and adverbs.

Words that should not be capitalized include:

    Articles (a, an, the)
    Short (fewer than 5 letters)
    Coordinating Conjunctions (and, but, for)
    Prepositions (at, by, from, etc.)
https://writer.com/blog/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-ap-styl...

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by [deleted] »

kozziollek wrote: post #26

Offtopic: could people that write news titles please learn how to capitalize words? Or can we make sure that at AI will know it, when most of news are written by it? Took me 3 tries to parse the title. "Rivian Joins Forces" - is that name of an organization? - "with Tesla"... nope, that doesn't make sense. "Rivan Joins forces" (somebody to do something), syntax error got "with". "Rivan joins forces with Tesla" - yay!…

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Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by mattofak »

kozziollek wrote: post #26

Offtopic: could people that write news titles please learn how to capitalize words? Or can we make sure that at AI will know it, when most of news are written by it? Took me 3 tries to parse the title. "Rivian Joins Forces" - is that name of an organization? - "with Tesla"... nope, that doesn't make sense. "Rivan Joins forces" (somebody to do something), syntax error got "with". "Rivan joins forces with Tesla" - yay!…

This style of capitalisation is called Title Case [1] and is quite common in English print media.

There are quite a few automated tools to convert back and forth, maybe a future site improvement for Dang in the user preferences.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by zodo123 »

echelon wrote: post #24
bpodgursky wrote: post #17

At this point, the rate at which automakers NACS support is a good proxy for corporate malaise. Everyone sees the writing on the wall for CCS, and if an automaker takes another couple months to announce a migration it simply means the executive leadership has no clue what they are doing with regards to EVs.

Is NACS superior to CCS in any way apart from install base? I was under the impression NACS was inferior.

NACS is dramatically easier to maneuver into the port on the car, and supports higher amperage. CSS requires an extra internal flap on the car side that you have to open and close manually, as well. It’s a seriously underwhelming design.

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by simondotau »

echelon wrote: post #24
bpodgursky wrote: post #17

At this point, the rate at which automakers NACS support is a good proxy for corporate malaise. Everyone sees the writing on the wall for CCS, and if an automaker takes another couple months to announce a migration it simply means the executive leadership has no clue what they are doing with regards to EVs.

Is NACS superior to CCS in any way apart from install base? I was under the impression NACS was inferior.

NACS is smaller and lighter than CCS1.

By combining DC and AC onto the same pins, it reduces the part count and weight of bus bars / conductors which run from a car's charging socket and the battery.

NACS is a better user experience for people and significantly so for people with mobility issues, disabilities, etc.

The pre-eminent NACS fast charging network is markedly better than the totality of all CCS1 charging networks.

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by xp84 »

echelon wrote: post #24
bpodgursky wrote: post #17

At this point, the rate at which automakers NACS support is a good proxy for corporate malaise. Everyone sees the writing on the wall for CCS, and if an automaker takes another couple months to announce a migration it simply means the executive leadership has no clue what they are doing with regards to EVs.

Is NACS superior to CCS in any way apart from install base? I was under the impression NACS was inferior.

Suggest to watch the Technology Connections video. TL;DW: it’s fine, it has some advantages and no real disadvantages.

It’s annoying that the US will once again be out of sync with the rest of the world, that’s the main drawback.

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by tensor »

belval wrote: post #36
echelon wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is NACS superior to CCS in any way apart from install base? I was under the impression NACS was inferior.

I've used both and while from a technical standpoint CCS might be superior (I have no idea), in practice NACS is sleeker and feels less clunky. Is that a good reason to adopt a standard that isn't open? Probably not. Does the average customer cares and will it have an impact on their day to day? Probably not. EDIT: Seems like NACS is open after all so I don't really understand why we would bother with CCS.

My understanding is that NACS is open: https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-s...

Re: Rivian embraces Tesla's charging standard for EVs

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Post by bryanlarsen »

echelon wrote: post #24
bpodgursky wrote: post #17

At this point, the rate at which automakers NACS support is a good proxy for corporate malaise. Everyone sees the writing on the wall for CCS, and if an automaker takes another couple months to announce a migration it simply means the executive leadership has no clue what they are doing with regards to EVs.

Is NACS superior to CCS in any way apart from install base? I was under the impression NACS was inferior.

NACS is superior to CCS1 (North America) in every way. Size, install base, robustness and more.

CCS2 (Europe) has few (if any) of the drawbacks of CCS1.

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