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Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by ploum »

Quarrel wrote: post #33
bottlepalm wrote: post #3

What's with the mostly nsfw content? Was that part of the r/celebrities protest?

It is part of a campaign based on the fact that Reddit doesn't run ads against NSFW content, so high user count subs can mark everything NSFW (whether it is or not) and hurt Reddit in their cashflow. For some of the subreddits this isn't as far fetched as for others; /r/videos is more of a work to rule to protest given they're now taking swearing very seriously. You have to think of the 14 year old kids that use redd…

As 14 yo are very rarely at work, NSFW means that the content is for them, right?

Or they understood it mean something larger and, as every 14 yo on earth, they will happily comply and never open content which is marked "please do not open if you are not an adult".

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by Seattle3503 »

veave wrote: post #31
oblio wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of the smaller communities only exist because someone created and promoted them, set ground rules, etc. In the olden days the subreddit would be their personal PHPBB forum. Now they are just sharecroppers for Reddit, and guess what, Reddit isn't a better admin.

Most of the smaller communities only exist because someone was first to take the subreddit name, period. That doesn't say anything about the quality of their mods. And as I said most mods are power tripping and/or want to control the conversation. I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

I'm curious, what is your experience modding subreddits?

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by detourdog »

leoedin wrote: post #5

It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a catego…

It's interesting observation. The early days of the web everyone owned their own websites. Services like tripod and later weblogs changed that dynamic.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by johnnyanmac »

veave wrote: post #31
oblio wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of the smaller communities only exist because someone created and promoted them, set ground rules, etc. In the olden days the subreddit would be their personal PHPBB forum. Now they are just sharecroppers for Reddit, and guess what, Reddit isn't a better admin.

Most of the smaller communities only exist because someone was first to take the subreddit name, period. That doesn't say anything about the quality of their mods. And as I said most mods are power tripping and/or want to control the conversation. I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

>I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

And you trust the replacements, that in your words are "mostly power tripping and/or want to control the conversation?". Unless you yourself are taking over and trust yourself to not grow to be what you hate?

This sounds more like a revolving door in your eyes than cleaning out the trash. why bother if you haven't addressed the core problem?

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by littlestymaar »

antupis wrote: post #46
yanderekko wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd distinguish between small and large communities. For example, if the World of Warcraft subreddit implodes somehow it's basically guaranteed that another one will arise, although you do often get awkward userbase splits, eg. /r/gameofthrones vs. /r/freefolk. I'd say that basically any community with 100k members will continue onwards from a mod implosion. For smaller communities ( For communities in the 10k-100k r…

I think we will see effects in long run, if I would start new community 2016 I would have definitely picked Reddit now it is probably Discord or Slack.

Slack?

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by veave »

Seattle3503 wrote: post #62
veave wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the smaller communities only exist because someone was first to take the subreddit name, period. That doesn't say anything about the quality of their mods. And as I said most mods are power tripping and/or want to control the conversation. I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

I'm curious, what is your experience modding subreddits?

Where is this conversation going? "You don't know how hard mods have it ;( ?"

I think subreddits are better off without mods. Therefore, I have never modded one.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by johnnyanmac »

leoedin wrote: post #38
veave wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the smaller communities only exist because someone was first to take the subreddit name, period. That doesn't say anything about the quality of their mods. And as I said most mods are power tripping and/or want to control the conversation. I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

Yeah, it's not nearly as clear cut as someone running their own forum. It's almost irrelevant that someone happened to register /r/politics or r/worldnews first - those are categories of discussion, and so their size is directly proportional to Reddit's size. The moderators don't own that community (even if they think they do). If the moderators declare that they're moving to Lemmy, let them. I think they'll quickly…

>this particular category has someone who enforces a huge list of arcane rules.

and I think a few months with new eyes will show why those arcane rules exist. Losing that tribal knowledge just means the sub will re-experience the same growing pains until we come full circle back to the rules we deemed arcane.

Tech moves fast. Human nature, not so much. social media is a lot more about the latter.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by gonehome »

leoedin wrote: post #5

It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a catego…

Getting rid of mods like the one linked in this post is a net positive for Reddit imo. His plan was to disable the subreddit for 6 weeks while working on a bot? What? Reddit can just take over.

Mods like this are awful - way too much power has gone to their head just because they happened to be the first to create some subreddit.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by veave »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #64
veave wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the smaller communities only exist because someone was first to take the subreddit name, period. That doesn't say anything about the quality of their mods. And as I said most mods are power tripping and/or want to control the conversation. I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community.

>I am glad that they are getting removed for the good of the community. And you trust the replacements, that in your words are "mostly power tripping and/or want to control the conversation?". Unless you yourself are taking over and trust yourself to not grow to be what you hate? This sounds more like a revolving door in your eyes than cleaning out the trash. why bother if you haven't addressed the core problem?

Just the fact that the new mods don't think they have the right to keep the entire community hostage makes them better than the replaced ones, yes. Although it would be better not to have any mods at all.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Post by frankfrankfrank »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #37
leoedin wrote: post #5

It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a catego…

I don't think ownership is the right descriptor for how most mods feel about "their" subreddit. I would hazard a guess that most mods feel more like stakeholders, having already done a large amount of unpaid labour should entitle them to have some say over the future direction of that subreddit.

So because they did things voluntarily they are owed something? You describe the very mentality that is persistent among all corrosive human efforts that go by many different labels, but all share a common element of imposing demands through violation, i.e., “we freely agree on one thing, now you demand another under threat of violence.”
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