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Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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Yeah, the dude politely asked for 4-6 weeks of closure time.. hard to believe that he expected Reddit to find this reasonable. Unfortunately, the admins probably lack bandwidth to go back and forth on these things and so they just yeeted the top mod rather than tell him that's unacceptable.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #15

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They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.

>They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company

Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #15

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They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.

>They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.

> Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.

Practically, and literally impossible. There's CP and other illegal material being posted in these subs every second. Without API access, you have to have dozens of moderators at all times checking every single incoming post.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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You could not be more wrong. The work is mostly invisible to end users.

Not really. Sort by new and take a look yourself. Nonsense posts get downvoted before a moderator has to do anything. People who sort by top or whatever never see it.

Most sort by top so it is in fact mostly invisible

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #23

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>They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.

> Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API. Practically, and literally impossible. There's CP and other illegal material being posted in these subs every second. Without API access, you have to have dozens of moderators at all times checking every single incoming post.

Not to mention spam. There's lots of bots posting just avalanches of garbage upvoted by click farms.

It's like these people are coming in driving cars and Reddit management is offering a sturdy pair of walking shoes to try to keep up with them.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #6

So they just expelled one of the people that helped make Reddit what it is today? No loyalty at all is there.

Money trumps loyalty (family, friendship). "We thank you for your service." It's unpleasant, but completely in line with what's happened to the internet over the last 20+ years. It has to look good for the IPO. The ones with the shares don't care what happens after that.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a catego…

>The community subreddits are different - they often have a much more defined culture and purpose. Those are the ones which, if the moderators give up, will die. I am in some "community" subreddits and moderators are just there to enforce the rules that they made up and not everybody necessarily agree with. As an example, it's very common to have vague rules that silence some flavour of on-topic conversations... and…

Some of the smaller communities only exist because someone created and promoted them, set ground rules, etc.

In the olden days the subreddit would be their personal PHPBB forum.

Now they are just sharecroppers for Reddit, and guess what, Reddit isn't a better admin.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #6

So they just expelled one of the people that helped make Reddit what it is today? No loyalty at all is there.

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> by trying to damage the company

A lot of the voices and mods that are most prominent are saying that it is Spez that is actively damaging the company.

Christian, Apollo's author, gives a good write up of the recent developments:

https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_t...

One thing missing from this is that obviously reddit is seeing OpenAI and others training AIs on their data and taking the wrong lessons from it. They're hitting the wrong people with misplaced understanding of where the value lies and how to capture it.

Instead Spez seems to see Elon's taking the sword to Twitter as a role model, which I think misunderstands the structural damage that Elon has done to the Twitter community.

Re: Removed as moderator of /r/Celebrities after over 14 years

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post #15

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They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.

>They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.

nasty moderator who not only work for free to make money for reddit but also want to keep their tools to make their work easier
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