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Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by ttctciyf »

xqcgrek2 wrote: post #3

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> I don't see any "debunking" there

You somehow missed the many instances of claims by Huffman contradicted by evidence given in the article?

Huffman:

> [Developers] are mad because they used to get something for free, and now it’s going to be not free.

Article:

> I expressed this willingness to pay many times throughout phone calls and emails, for instance here's one on literally the very first phone call:

>> "I'm honestly looking forward to the pricing and the stuff you're rolling out provided it's enough to keep me with a job. You guys seem nothing but reasonable, so I'm looking to finding out more."

Huffman:

> Reddit is Fun, he never wanted to talk to us

Article:

> The Reddit is Fun developer shared emails with The Verge showing how he outlined many suggestions to Reddit, none of which were listened to

Huffman:

> Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million. This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us.

Article:

> I recorded the phone call and can show this to be false, to the extent that Reddit even apologized four times for misinterpreting it:

>> Reddit [during the same call] : "That's a complete misinterpretation on my end. I apologize. I apologize immediately."

AFAICS this is exactly what "debunking" looks like.

Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by graypegg »

nojito wrote: post #4
Engineering-MD wrote: post #2

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

True, but if it was jump starting a service with 100 people, I’m sure Apollo would be huge in comparison. I get the idea.

But also I think people would want something like Lemmy or another federated service, which don’t really fit into Apollo that well. (Instances, federated login, etc) so I don’t really think it would’ve been feasible anyway.

Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by JoeyJoJoJr »

nojito wrote: post #4
Engineering-MD wrote: post #2

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

Apollo can be quality content with dedicated users, and Reddit can be for the masses.

Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by nunez »

nojito wrote: post #4
Engineering-MD wrote: post #2

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

I would use whatever Lemmy instance Apollo would tie its hitch to, without question. Can't be the only one.

Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by replwoacause »

nojito wrote: post #4
Engineering-MD wrote: post #2

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

I don’t know about minuscule. But when Apollo got screwed over by Reddit I dropped Reddit in an instant and haven’t looked back. It wasn’t that hard tbh. If Apollo linked up to another backend I’d be up for giving it a try.

Re: Apollo founder debunks Reddit's claims

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Post by solarkraft »

nojito wrote: post #4
Engineering-MD wrote: post #2

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

Not at all. Reddit has burned up all of its good will and users are actively looking for an alternative (which seems to be Lemmy at this point).

Apollo wouldn't even have to get all of its users over, even 10% would be a great start for organic growth.

Even more: It would catapult Apollo into an actual controlling role regarding its market share on the new platform.

Definitely seems a lot better than giving up. Reddit has confirmed its plans to die multiple times, so there's not much of a point still hoping for a change.

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