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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by nerdbert »

Vvector wrote: post #153
nerdbert wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'll end up using a lot of storage space; in my totally uninformed understanding, you would end up storing the full contents of any community/sub that you follow.

Won't that happen anyway? A typical instance with 1000 users is likely to be subscribed to greater than 50% of the active communities out there.

Yes but the storage used by that instance is shared among 1000 users, rather than all devoted to just one user. Theoretically there would be a fair amount of duplication and therefore less net resource use.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by theossuary »

remram wrote: post #143

One problem that I experienced is that, after all this talk of "federation" and a "fediverse" with all Lemmy instances and all other ActivityPub apps... every Lemmy instance has a /c/technology, a /c/anime, a /c/funny, and a /c/linux, and all those community are entirely distinct.

Yeah, but like you can subscribe to all those communities, you don't have to just pick one, they'll all show up in your feed. Ans eventually some will die off and others will become dominant. That's the circle of life for a Lemmy community.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by armchairhacker »

Anon_Forever wrote: post #164
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beehaw is a bit dramatic. I'm part of one of the most active lemmy instances, It only just brought in upstream lemmy as it forked 2 years ago when the community was created, because lemmy wasn't ready. Beehaw has some weird ideas about harassment and hate speech. Essentially civility and concern-troll like behavior cranked up to the extreme. The instance I'm on is a bit rowdy but has a tight culture and something lik…

>As a result, we find historical figures such as John Brown very admirable and hold strong opinions on what should happen to slaveholders and their ilk. Beehaw doesn't seem to like that. What does this even mean in the context of a social media site?

> Group A: “We should punch Nazis, we actively encourage punching Nazis” > Beehaw: “Hey! You can’t advocate for violence towards people!”

> Group A: “They’re Nazis, they deserve it”

Something along those lines. In this case not exactly “punching Nazis”, but advocating something “should happen to slaveholders and their ilk”.

For context, John Brown tried to organize a violent rebellion among black slaves in the South: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by remram »

theossuary wrote: post #182
remram wrote: post #143

One problem that I experienced is that, after all this talk of "federation" and a "fediverse" with all Lemmy instances and all other ActivityPub apps... every Lemmy instance has a /c/technology, a /c/anime, a /c/funny, and a /c/linux, and all those community are entirely distinct.

Yeah, but like you can subscribe to all those communities, you don't have to just pick one, they'll all show up in your feed. Ans eventually some will die off and others will become dominant. That's the circle of life for a Lemmy community.

Sure, subscribe to all of them, see the same stories multiple times, with the comments spread out over separate thread. Post your story manually into each separate community.

That's no federation, that's the definition of silos. That's my experience using HN and Reddit today, or Facebook and Twitter.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by tourmalinetaco »

bryan0 wrote: post #120
Sol- wrote: post #9

Needing to think about instances and having to create legends of features they support already dooms widespread adoption, but I suppose this can be fine. Small communities and spaces can be a benefit, though they'll be heavily filter-bubbled towards the tech/nerd crowd. Shame we don't live in a world where Reddit somehow turned into non-profit for the common good like Wikipedia before it monopolized forum culture and…

Yeah having to worry about instances is already a fail. You should be able to search and join a "community" and the instance shouldn't even matter for the end-user. If the community / topic / "subreddit" you want to join does not exist, then you can spin up your own instance to host it, but until then instances should not even be a concern.

Exactly, each instance should have been separate communities tied via a “front page” that can also be self-hosted, using RSS to aggregate from each instanced community. Not multiple instances each with multiple similar communities that only serves to fracture an already minority of users.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

n6h6 wrote: post #160
less_less wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which instance is that, if you don't mind my asking?

I am also curious. The main reason I haven't even tried figuring Lemmy out is because I figured it'd be exclusively full of "free speech" people, like other Reddit alternatives.

With a prior warning that a lot of people aren't big fans, and the instance hasn't formally federated yet, it's hexbear.net. Far left with specific rules against sectarian infighting, wrecking, etc.

It's generally a really positive place, a lot of well read folks who can back up their views. Not pure shitposting a la genZedong.

Not a fun place to go if you want a debate off the bat.

It was originally a diaspora for /r/chapotraphouse after they were banned for "promoting violence" after basically saying "slave owners deserve to be killed", which like, yeah. It was banned at the same time as /r/the_donald which really felt like a "if we ban one extreme, gotta ban the other". If you ask me, the sins of the two weren't equal but we did a ton of brigading so we sorta deserved it anyway. Diaspora split between discord and hexbear. The latter has two daily megathreads that get more interaction than most lemmys see in a week.

It will be federating soon, lemmygrad to start with and most likely some hobby and special interest lemmys soon.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

Anon_Forever wrote: post #169
n6h6 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also curious. The main reason I haven't even tried figuring Lemmy out is because I figured it'd be exclusively full of "free speech" people, like other Reddit alternatives.

Lemmy has/had the other extreme where it was full of "Gen Zedong" people.

Lemmy was created by communists.

Not quite shitposters like genZedong but committed communists nonetheless.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

ted_bunny wrote: post #99
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beehaw is a bit dramatic. I'm part of one of the most active lemmy instances, It only just brought in upstream lemmy as it forked 2 years ago when the community was created, because lemmy wasn't ready. Beehaw has some weird ideas about harassment and hate speech. Essentially civility and concern-troll like behavior cranked up to the extreme. The instance I'm on is a bit rowdy but has a tight culture and something lik…

Beehaw sound like the pseudo-socialist crybullies who wreck every Left space they're let into, in my experience.

bingobango

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

less_less wrote: post #109
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beehaw is a bit dramatic. I'm part of one of the most active lemmy instances, It only just brought in upstream lemmy as it forked 2 years ago when the community was created, because lemmy wasn't ready. Beehaw has some weird ideas about harassment and hate speech. Essentially civility and concern-troll like behavior cranked up to the extreme. The instance I'm on is a bit rowdy but has a tight culture and something lik…

Which instance is that, if you don't mind my asking?

I gave a little writeup to the comment under you, if you're still interested.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by [deleted] »

armchairhacker wrote: post #183
Anon_Forever wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As a result, we find historical figures such as John Brown very admirable and hold strong opinions on what should happen to slaveholders and their ilk. Beehaw doesn't seem to like that. What does this even mean in the context of a social media site?

> Group A: “We should punch Nazis, we actively encourage punching Nazis” > Beehaw: “Hey! You can’t advocate for violence towards people!” > Group A: “They’re Nazis, they deserve it” Something along those lines. In this case not exactly “punching Nazis”, but advocating something “should happen to slaveholders and their ilk”. For context, John Brown tried to organize a violent rebellion among black slaves in the South:…

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