const [{ points = 0 }] = await sql`
select sum(points) as points
from usr
where country = 'JP'
`;
what language is this? beautiful black magic
IKEA-Oriented Development
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Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#122Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.
People like to complain about Ikea but is there any other furniture that's decent quality at a decent price available in the US? It seems unless you go super expensive everything else is basically crap that's still expensive. From what I have seen Ikea is by far the deal in the US.
To add: I have moved Ikea furniture quite a few times without many problems. With most furniture I add some brackets on the backside to make it more sturdy which makes moving much easier.
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone seems to chime in with comments confirming your experience, so let me add an opposite take: all IKEA furniture I ever dealt with were... at best, meh. Some may look almost durable when assembled, but they start to accumulate damage over months to years of regular use. Not careless use, but also not super-careful use as if it were a museum piece. Just regular use. Which is why I too claim that all IKEA furnit…
> all IKEA furniture I ever dealt with were... at best, meh Also, can we get a raise of hands on the number of people who have vs have not been successful in disassembling and reassembling IKEA BILLY bookshelves? I am fully convinced that it is near impossible for your average person to disassemble and reassemble BILLY bookshelves without damage. I have a number of shelves possibly still sitting in storage at the uni…
I disassembled and reassembled BILLY bookshelves after 4 years without any visible damage, and they served for another 3+ years until I moved overseas and sold them. Not sure if they survived the second move, but they definitely did the first time.
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The moving company warned us that it was common and they would refuse to move it unless we we willing to forgo any damage claims on those pieces. I mean, talking about having you over a barrel. They know precisely that you will not stop, and find another mover. All they need to do is stretch wrap the bejeebus out of the bottom to protect those exposed pressed wood chips, but they don't want to have to do that, so th…
You could also put it in the trunk of your car or take it on the train.
Or wrap it in a blanket or something.
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone seems to chime in with comments confirming your experience, so let me add an opposite take: all IKEA furniture I ever dealt with were... at best, meh. Some may look almost durable when assembled, but they start to accumulate damage over months to years of regular use. Not careless use, but also not super-careful use as if it were a museum piece. Just regular use. Which is why I too claim that all IKEA furnit…
I suppose that how durable IKEA furniture is depends a lot on what you choose. For instance I have bought some IKEA metallic tables and these do not contain anything that is fragile or that may be damaged without a huge effort to do that. After some 5 years there is no visible difference from the day when I have assembled them and I do not expect any to appear soon. They look like they will easily outlive me. If I ha…
> I suppose that how durable IKEA furniture is depends a lot on what you choose.
It absolutely does. They have several quality/price tiers for most IKEA furniture that rather predictable goes from particle board to plywood to solid wood. The materials are listed on the tag in the IKEA showroom so I literally just look for the product that have only solid wood (and veneer if applicable).
The particle board is crap that quickly deteriorates, especially if you spill anything on the exposed particle board. The plywood is actually quite good if you apply a little wood glue to the joints, and the solid wood is usually the best bang for the buck furniture you can buy outside of craigslist heirloom pieces.
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#126Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.
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Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#127Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.
I have moved many times with Ikea furniture and purchased it used with no problems. Ikea furniture is some of the most disassemble and reassemble-able furniture I've seen.
Wait until you try to disassemble the TUFFING bunk bed. Angle grinder seems like the best option.
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#128There is some irony in talking about simple components and ease of assembly with standard tools then mentioning JS and it's utter abomination of an ecosystem where you need a bunch of tools to put together the simplest of sites (if you insist doing it in modern JS way) JS IKEA would ship you 6 trucks of dependencies before you could hang a shelf
Just because you're not able to separate the good from the bad, doesn't mean it's all bad in JS land.
If the ecosystem is bad (hypothetically speaking, I'm not a JS developer), what good is having a few good things?
Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#129const [{ points = 0 }] = await sql` select sum(points) as points from usr where country = 'JP' `; what language is this? beautiful black magic
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Re: IKEA-Oriented Development
#130Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.
I have moved many times with Ikea furniture and purchased it used with no problems. Ikea furniture is some of the most disassemble and reassemble-able furniture I've seen.
I've also moved it, but rarely disassemble. Drawers out, sure, but otherwise just move intact. Can almost always Tetris stuff together so it doesn't really save any space.
Adding wood glue to any places with dowels or even any joints is a pretty cheap, low-effort way to get a 2-3x life multiplier on that type of furniture. As long as you don't want to disassemble again, of course.