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Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by dheera »

euroderf wrote: post #6

Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.

An unfortunate reality for the environment is that IKEA furniture often costs less to trash it and buy new than to hire people to move it.

It would be interesting if we could create a world economy in which moving something always costed less than manufacturing another instance of it.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by samwillis »

hartator wrote: post #26

> If you have a hammer and screwdriver, you can build Ikea furniture. I never had to use a hammer with Ikea furniture.

Wardrobes, many cupboards, chests of drawers, their kitchen cabinets, the infamous "Billy Bookcase" all have a back panel that is pined in place and need a hammer.

Sometimes the little wooden dowels that hold many sides in place need a small tap from a hammer to get them home.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by wccrawford »

hartator wrote: post #26

> If you have a hammer and screwdriver, you can build Ikea furniture. I never had to use a hammer with Ikea furniture.

It's rare, but it is sometimes needed. The 2 things I'm thinking of are some of the mounts for the screw-in adjustable feet, and the tiny nails on the back of cabinets and closets that hold the back on.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by watwut »

hef19898 wrote: post #17
belval wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally I have had trouble reconciling this seemingly prevalent "you can't disassemble Ikea furniture" with my own experience. It's not made for it sure but bookshelves, bed frames and tables can all be reassembled reasonably well. Anything smaller you can just put in the truck when moving.

Again one of those impossible to kill memes, along with bad mounting instructions (they are on par with Lego, and way better than a lot of industry ones). Usually tells you more about the person making that point than about the point they try to make.

IKEA instructions are the best instructions there exist, imo. You can consistently follow the steps. We had much worst experience with instructions feom other shops.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by mortenjorck »

belval wrote: post #12
atoav wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved a ikea shelve through 3 flats and two nations. Ultimately I gifted it away because the new space wouldn't fit it and my requirements had changed, but I know people who are in the 5th flat. As long as you are treating the stuff right it should survive a few assembly-disassembly-cycles. Key is of couese to sort the screws, mark the parts with tape, etc.

Anecdotally I have had trouble reconciling this seemingly prevalent "you can't disassemble Ikea furniture" with my own experience. It's not made for it sure but bookshelves, bed frames and tables can all be reassembled reasonably well. Anything smaller you can just put in the truck when moving.

I think a big reason for this reputation is that IKEA is one of the few furniture brands big enough to have a wider-than-normal range of product tiers. Most brands have only one or two that are typically close together, while IKEA has at least three covering a much broader range of manufacturing methods and materials.

And while you can get lucky with products in the lowest tier (I have some 15-year-old seating that fits this mold), often you do need to step up to at least the mid-tier to get something that will make it unscathed through moves.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by ml_giant »

hartator wrote: post #26

> If you have a hammer and screwdriver, you can build Ikea furniture. I never had to use a hammer with Ikea furniture.

Sometimes you may need one when putting in those wooden rod things? Not sure what they are called.

I typically just use the butt end of the screwdriver when I have to put them in

Edit: didn’t see the other reply mentioning the same thing :(

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by alpinemeadow »

euroderf wrote: post #6

Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.

Your mind will be blown. We have a assemble/disassemble version of PAX wardrobes that takes 5 min to break down/put up.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by ng12 »

naet wrote: post #29
euroderf wrote: post #6

Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.

I have moved many times with Ikea furniture and purchased it used with no problems. Ikea furniture is some of the most disassemble and reassemble-able furniture I've seen.

Yeah, I live in New York and the professional movers have made an artform of quickly disassembling and reassembling IKEA furniture.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by rootusrootus »

Hikikomori wrote: post #14
euroderf wrote: post #6

Another lesson of Ikea is that often you cannot move them from one home/apartment to another, because if you try to take it apart and then reassemble it, it's never the same. To extend this via analogy to the software realm, a deep refactoring is problematic whereas OTOH a complete rewrite is a better idea. Which has not borne borne out by industry experience.

Why take them apart? Just move them like regular furniture.

Unless you glued them when assembling, moving most IKEA furniture fully assembled puts a lot of stress on the hardware and it permanently loosens up.

Re: IKEA-Oriented Development

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Post by Gordonjcp »

ml_giant wrote: post #36
hartator wrote: post #26

> If you have a hammer and screwdriver, you can build Ikea furniture. I never had to use a hammer with Ikea furniture.

Sometimes you may need one when putting in those wooden rod things? Not sure what they are called. I typically just use the butt end of the screwdriver when I have to put them in Edit: didn’t see the other reply mentioning the same thing :(

> those wooden rod things

Dowels.

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