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Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by marginalia_nu »

eep_social wrote: post #158
marginalia_nu wrote: post #156

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I guess it has to be the same guy feeling generous, but I just got a driveby dono of $100,000 in crypto as well :O

!! Congrats! Sounds pretty amazing coming right on the heels of your decision to go full time. I have so many questions — hope you’ll put out an update when you’re done celebrating ;)

Yeah it's very generous and amazing. ... although, like Andreas I have some things to figure out in terms of how to liquidate the asset.

Swedish banks really don't like crypto, to the point where I've had trouble charging for API access because I couldn't prove the money wasn't from crypto :-/

I have some old friends who are deep into that world, gonna have to see what advice they have. Still, as far as problems go, it's a nice problem to have I guess.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by eropple »

chubot wrote: post #146
eropple wrote: post #140

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As I mentioned in a sibling, I quite like Zulip. But its problem is pretty simply that people have limited attention span, willingness to change, and most people in the tech space already have Slack on the brain and Discord is probably at least passingly familiar. Asking people to put up with a third thing--a third set of ways to do things, a third app on the taskbar or on the phone--is asking a lot of people in the…

FWIW I worked in software for 14 years, and never used Slack or Discord, so I wouldn't be so quick to generalize "Everybody else is doing it" is a weak argument "Everyone else" isn't building a browser from scratch -- it's more important what those people are doing and using

Loners Georg are outliers and, if you are caring about and optimizing for attention and growth, should not be counted.

For every one person who's never used those, I can throw a rock and bounce it off a dozen who have.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by Tade0 »

bruce511 wrote: post #101
Tade0 wrote: post #40

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Two competitors in anything is too few. Look at the mess any two-party system is comparing to where there are at least three, each keeping the others in check.

Tell that to MS Phone. Tell that to Desktop Linux. Or OS/2. Or BeOS. Etc. A browser is a consumer product. As such the public will gravitate between two choices. 3rd place is no-where land. Sure 3rd place can exist, but its always a distant 3rd. Trident got canned for a reason. MS phone was a good OS, but sales offered iOS and Android. We need a stronger second option, not another option. Mozilla at least starts at p…

> As such the public will gravitate between two choices. 3rd place is no-where land.

I see this as an uniquely American approach to things. Doesn't extrapolate to the rest of the world.

> Trident got canned for a reason.

Trident got canned because Google used underhanded methods to throw it out.

Gecko remains only because there need to be at least two, independent implementations for a web standard to be pushed through.

As it stands there is no real competition here - Google is calling the shots.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by simonw »

andybak wrote: post #55
simonw wrote: post #48

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I resisted starting a Discord for my open source projects for years. With hindsight that was a mistake. I finally created one a year ago and it had a huge impact on the velocity of the project - I now have active engagement with users and a growing pool of contributors and collaborators, all thanks to that group. I think often it's important to prioritize reducing friction to getting involved over (very rational) res…

How do you feel about the fact that all your institutional knowledge is now not visible outside of Discord, not indexed and barely searchable? How do you feel about the fact that the long-term survival of this knowledge is at the whim of a company that is mostly focused on the gaming community and has no vested interest in preservation over longer time periods? When was the last time you found an answer to a question…

I certainly worry about that - it's one of the reasons I held out for so long.

My solution to this is a cultural one. Any time a question comes up on Discord that should be in the documentation, I add it to the docs.

If it's a bug report, I open a GitHub issue.

I often copy and paste messages out of Discord and into the relevant issues to keep them searchable and available in the most useful context.

It's a bit of extra admin work for me, but the stronger community I get from having a social space for people to hang out with each other is more than worth it.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by jacobobryant »

mid-kid wrote: post #149
andybak wrote: post #55

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How do you feel about the fact that all your institutional knowledge is now not visible outside of Discord, not indexed and barely searchable? How do you feel about the fact that the long-term survival of this knowledge is at the whim of a company that is mostly focused on the gaming community and has no vested interest in preservation over longer time periods? When was the last time you found an answer to a question…

Running a discord server for an open source project, I very much echo this feeling. I came after the discord server's creation, and the best I can do is help keep the IRC open and advocate that we keep the server on the lowest security level so people without accounts can join (in the odd case that feature actually works - it's very strictly behind captchas and IP rangebans, and desktop-only). Getting people off the…

> I would love to see a service appear that allows us to publish discord forums on the net.

Check out https://linen.dev. See https://www.linen.dev/d/tfos for an example (that's my own Discord community). Before discovering Linen I also made a proof-of-concept for something similar (https://discord.tfos.co); I might try to make some updates to that at some point so I can change the design.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by wila »

wila wrote: post #66
awesomekling wrote: post #5

Hello friends! I am very excited about this indeed :) If you’d like to know more about Ladybird, I did a presentation about it at the Web Engines Hackfest in Spain just two weeks ago: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs

That was a great presentation. Now I'm going to have to try Ladybird :D

It works! (of course it does)

This is all very interesting. Next is poking around in it for a bit.

Thanks so much.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by [deleted] »

eropple wrote: post #163
chubot wrote: post #146

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FWIW I worked in software for 14 years, and never used Slack or Discord, so I wouldn't be so quick to generalize "Everybody else is doing it" is a weak argument "Everyone else" isn't building a browser from scratch -- it's more important what those people are doing and using

Loners Georg are outliers and, if you are caring about and optimizing for attention and growth, should not be counted. For every one person who's never used those, I can throw a rock and bounce it off a dozen who have.

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Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by toastercat »

pabs3 wrote: post #160
toastercat wrote: post #69

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That makes me think, has anyone created a Discord bot that automatically archives chats? Preferably as HTML files similar to Pidgin? That would be great.

Pidgin supports Discord, so you could simply republish Pidgin HTML log files.

I would need to use Pidgin as my main client though. Pidgin only keeps records from your chat history.

Re: I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser

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Post by pabs3 »

toastercat wrote: post #169
pabs3 wrote: post #160

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Pidgin supports Discord, so you could simply republish Pidgin HTML log files.

I would need to use Pidgin as my main client though. Pidgin only keeps records from your chat history.

You could register a second account and run finch (command-line version of pidgin) on the server where you store the logs.
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