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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So does the submitted article.

The sentence with company name was added later, I still have the browser tab open when it was submitted to HN. It used to say "Multi day trips to the wreck cost tens of thousands of dollars and one dive to Titanic." Now it mentions the company and more accurate pricing.

Makes me wish for an extension that would temporarily - for a few days or weeks - cache everything you see under a given URL[0], and 1) tell you if the content changed since your last visit, 2) allow you to browse history of versions, and, importantly, 3) diff entries in that history.

Plenty of times I had a vague hunch the page said something slightly or perhaps entirely different just minutes or hours earlier, but have no easy way of checking it. Even if I have it opened in another tab, most likely the browser already decided to unload the content and reloads the page when I try to view it.

Bonus points if it could sync across devices - e.g. between phone and desktop using Firefox sync. Even recently, I had a situation where I was convinced someone edited their HN comment to say something 180° opposite to what it said earlier, in the 30 minutes between me reading it on a phone, and then reading it on a desktop later. Of course, the phone tab unloaded itself long ago, so I have no way of checking if it indeed happened, or was it just my brain misreading it the first time...

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[0] - +/- ignoring or employing some workarounds for SPAs that don't update URLs when the page content changes, or don't even use URLs to locate content in the first place.

Re: Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

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I had no idea that "tourists" visited Titanic. Is this the new thing after Everest became crowded?

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> Did it not occur to anyone that it might be a bad idea?

Of course the danger was considered, be realistic and stop letting class conflict cloud your judgement. Something being judged to be dangerous doesn't mean people won't do it, and people doing something dangerous doesn't mean they didn't consider the risks. People go skiing, base jumping down cliffs with wingsuits, cave diving and swimming with sharks. It's okay to do dangerous things if you know and accept the risks.

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Not a lot of information about this one. Does the Coast Guard have a submersible of their own that they could use to recover, even if they were able to find them?

Unfortunately from everything I know about submarine disasters there is very little hope of anyone surviving. Failures are often catastrophic and even without that the time to deploy recovery vessels measures in days. Rip.

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post #6

Not a lot of information about this one. Does the Coast Guard have a submersible of their own that they could use to recover, even if they were able to find them?

Not the Coast Guard, but maybe the Navy? Provided they can (a) find it and (b) dock with it ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_rescue )

The US Navy SRDRS is incapable of reaching that depth. There was no point in designing it to go any deeper than the crush depth of manned military submarines.

https://www.navy.mil/Resources/Fact-Files/Display-FactFiles/...

The most they could do is send an ROV to search for the lost submarine on the bottom, and perhaps attach a lift bag or recovery cable.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there the option of a one way ticket? Do they drop you off in the wreck of the Titanic and leave you there?

Maybe it's for if you want rescuing from the wreck.

which wreck. for that kind of money, i hope it's specified.

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Fascinating theyre relying on starlink for operations. I heard starlink was fairly unreliable from folks who have it in remote areas.

One data point from me: it's not unreliable.

Likewise for me. However, I'm on land, where the Starlink satellites don't have to relay comms between each other. It's a completely different story out in the middle of the ocean. Starlink only recently started their laser-based relay system, and I have not heard reports about its reliability. It might work great, I don't know. I do know that it was a difficult engineering problem to solve.

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Skimming the website, I assume this submersible is using electromagnetically attached drop-weights so that if anything goes wrong and power is lost, the weights drop off and the submersible floats up to the surface again? And 96 hours of life support sounds good, but unless there is another submersible nearby that can dive down, find them AND attach a line, the number of hours of life support will be irrelevant. Of course if the pressure hull has failed catastrophically it will have been over mercifully quickly. Anyone know if deep-diving submersibles are required to carry black-boxes like aircraft?
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