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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by ekanes »

valdiorn wrote: post #37
reddisbad wrote: post #30

Will Lemmy ever progress beyond discussions about federation?

Things that are destined to fail: * Cryptocurrencies who's sole reason to exist is to justify its own existence. "We need token X to perform operation Y. Operation Y is important to facilitate the trade of token X". Seriously, how many tokens exist for the only purpose of being "gas" for its own network? * Social networks that only discuss itself and its own existence. * Programming languages where the largest projec…

> Social networks that only discuss itself and its own existence.

This is a phase that every single new platform/tech passes through. All of them.

(Yes, fediverse isn't new, but it's new to many right now...)

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by mikeravkine »

ticoombs wrote: post #34
distcs wrote: post #4

Is anyone able to sign up on any Lemmy instance. If I try to sign up, the sign up button just turns into a spinning wheel which keeps spinning for ever. It does not seem to be load issue. When I click sign up, the browser does not seem to send any request to the server either except for a request to "symbols.svg". Is the sign up button even working?

It's probably a problem with your auto generated password. Passwords can't be longer than 20char. It's a bug. Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning. Another known bug. Self plug: come join on https://reddthat.com . We currently don't have email requirements, or any "forms" to fill out before you join. :)

What's your position on cannabis photo/review content?

Your ToS mentions Australian law so going to guess I am just as unwelcome here as everywhere else

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by stinkytaco »

indigochill wrote: post #48
stinkytaco wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue that social networks are a little bit different because discussing is what they do. Reddit is obsessed with itself, when I'd say most of the wide world doesn't care about the API or 3rd party app business (though they eventually may if moderation gets bad). Even 15 years ago a good amount of posting on reddit was about itself: secret Santas, seeing reddit bumper stickers, self referential memes, killing dig…

> That isn't to say federation will be successful Federation is already successful, since email is federated (you can register on gmail.com and send an email to an account at yahoo.com, or even run your own email server, although the ecosystem has evolved/commercialized to make that more difficult than it strictly has to be). But Lemmy, we'll see. Maybe a better-written competitor emerges, or maybe they get their act…

True, though I'd say that email is a cautionary tale due to how centralized it's gotten. I guess I was referring to "second wave" federation, for lack of a better term. Federated replacements for social networks: Mastodon, Lemmy, Friendica, etc. I can't say if those will be as successful as email, just that an obsession with itself is a pretty normal part of the growth process. Part of what made reddit successful, especially early on, was people identifying themselves as reddit users.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by HelloMcFly »

Sol- wrote: post #9

Needing to think about instances and having to create legends of features they support already dooms widespread adoption, but I suppose this can be fine. Small communities and spaces can be a benefit, though they'll be heavily filter-bubbled towards the tech/nerd crowd. Shame we don't live in a world where Reddit somehow turned into non-profit for the common good like Wikipedia before it monopolized forum culture and…

To your point: this conversation has pretty much convinced me to stop trying to figure Lemmy out and just hope Tildes pans out. I wanted to be a Lemmy adopter, but from an inability to sign-in and a complete disinterest in figuring out who is defederating from who (and why and what that means for me as a user) is giving me an allergic reaction to using it myself.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by unshavedyak »

goykasi wrote: post #49
ticoombs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Passwords can't be longer than 20char > This has to be a bad joke. There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding. > Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit? It is an alternative that removes a problem that Reddit users were facing. Lack of Control. It gives control back to the users. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if a person doesn't want a company being completely in contro…

> There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding What have they been doing since 2019?

Being a FOSS project not under the scrutiny of 150,000 refugees and just making a fun side project?

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by ra »

Sakos wrote: post #35
ticoombs wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably a problem with your auto generated password. Passwords can't be longer than 20char. It's a bug. Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning. Another known bug. Self plug: come join on https://reddthat.com . We currently don't have email requirements, or any "forms" to fill out before you join. :)

> Passwords can't be longer than 20char This has to be a bad joke. > Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit?

I also can't get paste the spinner with passwords < 20 chars.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by unshavedyak »

Sakos wrote: post #43
ticoombs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Passwords can't be longer than 20char > This has to be a bad joke. There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding. > Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit? It is an alternative that removes a problem that Reddit users were facing. Lack of Control. It gives control back to the users. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if a person doesn't want a company being completely in contro…

The vast majority of casual users don't care. They want something that works and doesn't get in their way with weird bullshit. If you want lemmy to be something other than a self-filtered community of misfits and outcasts, you need to make it convenient and easy to use/grok for casual users. Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

Lemmy is what it is. Why is it on Lemmy to be what millions of Redditors want as an alternate to Reddit? Your reply seems so hostile when all Lemmy did is exist.

This isn't a VC startup. This isn't even funded i believe. Why the hostility?

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #2

What instances are people here using? I recently decided to give Lemmy a try. From what I had been seeing I was planning to sign up to BeeHaw, only to find that they had defederated two of the largest instances due to their lax sign-up policies. I can understand their reasoning and it looks like it was relatively well handled, but it still makes that instance impractical. I ended up going to VLemmy as it was one of t…

Beehaw is a bit dramatic. I'm part of one of the most active lemmy instances, It only just brought in upstream lemmy as it forked 2 years ago when the community was created, because lemmy wasn't ready.

Beehaw has some weird ideas about harassment and hate speech. Essentially civility and concern-troll like behavior cranked up to the extreme.

The instance I'm on is a bit rowdy but has a tight culture and something like 600 average users online at once, 20kish accounts, and a very active banhammer to boot.

We take things like transphobia, homophobia, racism, etc very seriously. The mods have zero patience for wreckers and "debate me" types. As a result, we find historical figures such as John Brown very admirable and hold strong opinions on what should happen to slaveholders and their ilk. Beehaw doesn't seem to like that.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by ticoombs »

mikeravkine wrote: post #52
ticoombs wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably a problem with your auto generated password. Passwords can't be longer than 20char. It's a bug. Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning. Another known bug. Self plug: come join on https://reddthat.com . We currently don't have email requirements, or any "forms" to fill out before you join. :)

What's your position on cannabis photo/review content? Your ToS mentions Australian law so going to guess I am just as unwelcome here as everywhere else

I think if all images were hosted not on my infra it would be fine. I am not aware of any laws that forbid sharing information about weed.

But it would need to be heavily moderated. There are already some "trees" communities. Subscribing to them from our instance I wouldn't have a problem with

Edit: position: no, unless we get other moderators and admins we can trust. Currently it's just 2 people doing admin n moderation. Having a community like that may be a lot more involved that I would want to be.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by distcs »

ticoombs wrote: post #34
distcs wrote: post #4

Is anyone able to sign up on any Lemmy instance. If I try to sign up, the sign up button just turns into a spinning wheel which keeps spinning for ever. It does not seem to be load issue. When I click sign up, the browser does not seem to send any request to the server either except for a request to "symbols.svg". Is the sign up button even working?

It's probably a problem with your auto generated password. Passwords can't be longer than 20char. It's a bug. Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning. Another known bug. Self plug: come join on https://reddthat.com . We currently don't have email requirements, or any "forms" to fill out before you join. :)

> It's probably a problem with your auto generated password.

I am not using auto-generated passwords. Like I said the browser is not sending any request at all to the server.

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