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Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by taffer »

sfjailbird wrote: post #24
coder4life wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Walnut, almond, sunflower oil are not bad for you. They're expensive. Vegetable oil as you know it and it's sold is soybean oil. Maybe another cheap oilseed like canola or corn, but that's it because it's cheap.

Sunflower oil is in the same category as soybean and canola oil, industrially extracted from seeds and consisting of the type of omega-6 that in any but the most miniscule amounts are harmful in a number of ways, and a poor source of metabolic energy to boot. Walnut, almond, etc., are good for us, but in small amounts, and don't keep well or withstand heat, all of which make them unsuitable for cooking. We need to go…

> consisting of the type of omega-6 that in any but the most miniscule amounts are harmful in a number of ways, and a poor source of metabolic energy to boot.

I have been hearing this for years, but I have never found a reputable scientific source for this claim about omega-6 and omega-3. All I can find are sketchy websites trying to sell something.

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Post by Spivak »

fransje26 wrote: post #20
_xnmw wrote: post #10

Centuries later after Pax Americana ends historians will be talking about soybean oil like we talk about lead pipes in Rome.

You can also add corn syrup in the mix for good measure..

Why are people so weird about corn syrup? If you're fine with other forms of refined sugar you should be fine with corn syrup and vice versa. People make what is essentially corn syrup in the form of invert sugar from sugar cane.

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Post by tekla »

lm28469 wrote: post #21
blodkorv wrote: post #19

I really dont see how soybean oil in by itself causes obesity as is stated in the article. If you don exceed your daily caloric intace then you wont gain weight no matter what kind of oil you eat.

Probably that part: > potentially impacting energy metabolism CICO is mostly true if you already have a balanced diet, if you eat 2000kcal of ultra processed food you'll have side effects you wouldn't have with a cleaner diet. The body is a fine tuned machine, it doesn't process 100kcal of sugar the same way it processed 100kcal of broccoli

Creating mass out of nothing is literally impossible.

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by tekla »

yetihehe wrote: post #22
blodkorv wrote: post #19

I really dont see how soybean oil in by itself causes obesity as is stated in the article. If you don exceed your daily caloric intace then you wont gain weight no matter what kind of oil you eat.

Some foods can cause your satiety system to go bad and you then feel hungry and consume more food. Not everyone counts calories and says "oh, I've eaten too much today, better stop", some people (like me) actually feel real pain when they are hungry and going hungry lowers you willpower which you need to keep not eating and inflict pain on yourself.

Literally everyone feels pain when hungry. The trick is realizing its perfectly goddamn normal and you don't have to eat a 1000 calorie meal because of hunger pains.

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by tekla »

Spivak wrote: post #34
fransje26 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also add corn syrup in the mix for good measure..

Why are people so weird about corn syrup? If you're fine with other forms of refined sugar you should be fine with corn syrup and vice versa. People make what is essentially corn syrup in the form of invert sugar from sugar cane.

Probably ignorance of chemistry.

I always have a fun time when people demonize fructose, and then I point out its completely natural organic fruit sugar. (I mention natural and organic in the colloquial way, not the actual definition)

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Post by francisofascii »

Spivak wrote: post #34
fransje26 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also add corn syrup in the mix for good measure..

Why are people so weird about corn syrup? If you're fine with other forms of refined sugar you should be fine with corn syrup and vice versa. People make what is essentially corn syrup in the form of invert sugar from sugar cane.

Agree that corn syrup is not much worse and essentially the same as refined sugar, but they are both bad in large amounts and added everywhere to our foods.
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